[Weapon] 3 Knife ideas(Not a useless "Nerf! Buff!" Thread :P)

[wiimonster]

Okay I thought of three ideas to help(Or at least improve) the knife...
1. Elixer could be stackable with Poison blade, as it's very annoying activating poison bldae for them to blast you or use leg-it and run away(Both of these buy the victim more than 5 sec. of time anyways, so it shouldn't effect them THAT much, but it'll help knifers)

EDIT: They could just have elixer stackable with any ability, sort of like the keg for Gunners or Grenade Spam for Soldiers.

2. Right-click: Strong stab(Slower, needs to be dead center on the victim) and Left-click: Fast stab(a weaker stab, but faster and has a wider range)
OR 3. Charge stab: If you're within, say 6m(That's the level 5 stealth radius, right?) of someone, then you can start to charge your knife, and it makes a loud sound and maybe a small flash(Or your knife could light up) and when you strike it's a critical hit no matter one(NOT an ability, maybe knife could have a little knife in the lower right of the screen, like the bullet with guns, and it charges up the knife until it's full)
EDIT: If the charge stab becomes OP, then maybe the commando would slow down while it charges?

This doesn't have to do with the knife, but I've been suggesting it on some sniper posts: Remove PS(Evens out abilities for all classes) and buff sniper by 10-15 damage or so...I think that would help with the whole "nerf this!" Business. The snipers would remain powerful at long ranges, but they would be weakened at short range, making snipers actually SNIPE

EDIT: Mark target could increase damage done to the marked target(only by about 10% or so, nothing major...)

All ideas open to CONSTRUCTIVE critisism and compliments

[A1rPun]

Good idea, commando's getting nerf here nerf there. Buff the knifes!

[wiimonster]

(10-11-2009 11:34 PM)A1rPun Wrote:  Good idea, commando's getting nerf here nerf there. Buff the knifes!

Didn't they say they were going to make knifing more fun? When are they going to do that? (Or did they already do it? I hope not! In fact I seem to be hitting more 2's and 3's than 20's and up...)

[dtrick]

They balanced out kniving by making it that you need high poison blade to kill someone :/
Kniving is fun for me, but the most challenging videogame related thing I'v ever done.

[Elmachete]

YES YES YES! Listen to this guy DICE! He has a brain! YOU DON'T! LISTEN TO COMMON SENSE!

[F1r3guy13]

(11-11-2009 12:05 AM)dtrick Wrote:  They balanced out kniving by making it that you need high poison blade to kill someone :/

really? i get kills with my knife all the time, all you need is elixar. i got like three kills in about 30 seconds all in the same place. 1 of every class.

[Dacdariel]

You know F1r3guy13, wiimonster has elixir lvl 2, pb lvl 5 and stealth lvl 5.
I used to get many kills but as your opponens have higher lvl, they can have ton of skills to counter the knife.
Sometimes you can kill, but sadly it is usually better to stay away and snipe. And Im not high leveled, I don´t use PS and I love knifing, wanting it to be my main way of attacking.

I dont like the hipotetical sound of the charging knife. I´d love to be a silent assasin, not a showman butcher (not meaning that you want to show of or something like that )
. However a visual effect on the caster seems nice to me, so we should think twice beffore attacking, and the victim´s friends could help him out if they see the shining knife, so we would have to attack the guy falla in the back (yes, YOU, the guy reading this on his chair with the leg over the desk (?).

Strong stab seems nice. Now I prefer not having poison blade. It is too noisy and you became easily the centre of attention. Usually I can deal more damage when enemies don´t notice or are focusing on someone else (yeah, maybe they are uneskilled, but with skill or without skill, it is not very difficult to focus on a PB user, and team mates will usually start shotting him as it is a dd and an easy death.

/Signed
English is not my main language, It is not like I enjoy writing in way that it is not appealing to read, if it is d:
Sayio

[WipperSnipper]

this is a simple game, nice suggestions, but we want to game to be firendly and fun, not complicated. new people hould be able to pick up and play without having to learn the ins-and-outs of the game. getting a bit technical here

[wiimonster]

lol Thanks for your feedback guys
And it still can stay simple, the only difference is pressing right click for a stronger attack
PLUS: Thanks for the complements!

[wiimonster]

(11-11-2009 12:14 AM)F1r3guy13 Wrote:  

(11-11-2009 12:05 AM)dtrick Wrote:  They balanced out kniving by making it that you need high poison blade to kill someone :/

really? i get kills with my knife all the time, all you need is elixar. i got like three kills in about 30 seconds all in the same place. 1 of every class.

I have max PB, and even with it activated, I still do 2's and 3's...(Once I did 100 damage then 50 damage to kill a gunner though...)
And if I manage to sneak up behind a group I can kill them all if I get lucky and do good damage...
The knife is mainly luck, so I'm just saying we should keep the luck part but incorporate some skill in it too(The skill part is optional, as its a different button )
Oh, and if I'm not making sense now, it's because it's really late here and I'm tired...

[wiimonster]

(11-11-2009 12:09 AM)Elmachete Wrote:  YES YES YES! Listen to this guy DICE! He has a brain! YOU DON'T! LISTEN TO COMMON SENSE!

I wouldn't say THAT, but some suggestions by the community ARE pretty good, so maybe if they peeked in the suggestions forum more often, they might catch that rare good idea(Like this one apparently )

[Devasator]

I really like the charge stab idea :3
Reminds me of the rush with the halo 3 energy sword, though isn't a crit pretty strong with a knife?

[BellTower]

nice ideas, but will charge allow you to move? if not only idiots who stay still will fall for it. Also would be nice if PB was a little quieter, ur poisoning you knife not setting off a house full of fire works, any one who listens can hear uncloaking commandos to begin with so PB being quieter wouldn't be OP.

[snipeytje]

/signed since it would allow snipers to have a chance at close range so they can actually return to the battlefield instead of retreating into the hills and camping there

[wiimonster]

(11-11-2009 05:12 AM)BellTower Wrote:  nice ideas, but will charge allow you to move? if not only idiots who stay still will fall for it. Also would be nice if PB was a little quieter, ur poisoning you knife not setting off a house full of fire works, any one who listens can hear uncloaking commandos to begin with so PB being quieter wouldn't be OP.

Yes, it will allow you to move...but if it becomes OP, then they can make the commando move a bit slower while charging it up
And I usually only activate PB when I'm right next to my prey, but it still is pretty annoying having someone be aware that you're about to knife them before they even see you...

[wiimonster]

(11-11-2009 03:49 AM)Devasator Wrote:  I really like the charge stab idea :3
Reminds me of the rush with the halo 3 energy sword, though isn't a crit pretty strong with a knife?

Yeah, I was thinking about that, and maybe a crit is a bit OP, so maybe having it hit at least 20 instead of hitting that random 2 or 3?

[Solid Snail]

Charge stab sounds fun.

[Dacdariel]

Hahaha, I love your signature Solid, and you also like the Hitchhiker´s Guide to the Galaxy.
You are so cool I want to cry (nope, the last one was too much )
d:

20 isnt too little for a Charged attack? Moving slowlier is very risky, so I think I would continue doin the usuall lucky strikes. Well, depends on the speed. You know, they can just turn around and blast our brains off

[Solid Snail]

(11-11-2009 03:40 PM)Dacdariel Wrote:  the Hitchhiker´s Guide to the Galaxy.

42

[Kazoe]

well...uuuh...nope.