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27-05-2013, 01:02 PM | Post: #1
mercenary[kobk] 
Quote:[03.31.2013 19:24:04] Removing "Brea....cks." e889 (2 minutes) Violation (AIMBOT) #50751
[04.15.2013 22:20:58] Removing "Kil......006" 9eb6 (2 minutes) Violation (AIMBOT) #50327
[04.15.2013 22:42:54] Removing "EXc..s" 7b36 (2 minutes) Violation (AIMBOT) #50327
[04.23.2013 17:51:28] Removing "On........east" f3d2 (2 minutes) Violation (AIMBOT) #50327
[04.26.2013 19:28:36] Removing "De....tor!" 61e5 (2 minutes) Violation (AIMBOT) #50751
[05.04.2013 18:58:32] Removing "Tr...Plz" 2c22 (2 minutes) Violation (AIMBOT) #50751
[05.04.2013 19:09:56] Removing "bi...1" 1aa3 (2 minutes) Violation (AIMBOT) #50751
[05.06.2013 18:58:06] Removing ".:mF:.....hot" df55 (2 minutes) Violation (AIMBOT) #50751
[05.10.2013 18:52:17] Removing "Indig.......ser" 7e6c (2 minutes) Violation (AIMBOT) #50751
[05.10.2013 19:11:27] Removing "Ind.....ser" c31f (2 minutes) Violation (AIMBOT) #50751
[05.11.2013 19:04:56] Removing "Drag....aya6." 6441 (2 minutes) Violation (AIMBOT) #50751
[05.24.2013 19:08:40] Removing "TOI...T}.....Fun" 1a88 (2 minutes) Violation (AIMBOT) #50512

According to my current punk buster logs, the above characters have been caught and banned for "AIMBOT" violation.

At least that's what my C:\Users\<username>\AppData\Local\PunkBuster\HEROES\pb\pbcl.log shows. Yet tonight I have seen at least 2 of these characters play on GameArena servers in Australia... with no such mention of a ban, and they were not kicked at all.

I did talk in-game chat to the ones that are shown as being banned due to aimbot violation, and it was the first they heard about it, and also denied hacking...

OK, so what my question is... why does my punkbuster log file indeed log and show them as being kicked from servers for an aimbot violation (whilst I am actually on-line and playing), yet they do not get kicked, and are not banned? It has me scratching my head.

So my take on things is... punkbuster bans... are not really bans, as like I said, they were playing those characters above, in-game for full rounds yet they are in my own punkbuster log file showing everything... (shown below, my guid masked, user character names masked, all of my 10th and 24th May pbcl.log)

Code:
[05.10.2013 17:24:32] Attempting to resolve master4.evenbalance.com
[05.10.2013 17:24:32] Resolved to [50.62.81.163] (19)
[05.10.2013 17:24:32] PunkBuster Client (v2.260 | A0) Enabled
[05.10.2013 17:24:32] Game Version [1.107.247413.0]
[05.10.2013 17:24:32] Not Connected to a Server
[05.10.2013 17:24:32] Connected to Server 62.247.128.100:1234:21500
[05.10.2013 17:25:40] PB Services socket initialized
[05.10.2013 17:25:43] WARNING: PB Kicks for Name Stealing and Level 1 PB Restrictions on this Server
[05.10.2013 17:25:43] PB Server assigned guid = ............................9f0e
[05.10.2013 17:25:43] Receiving from PB Server (w v1.821 | A1376 C2.323)
[05.10.2013 17:25:44] Changing PunkBuster homepath to [C:\Users\~\AppData\Local\PunkBuster\HEROES\pb\]
[05.10.2013 17:25:44] Attempting to resolve master1.evenbalance.com
[05.10.2013 17:25:44] Resolved to [192.155.198.210] (19)
[05.10.2013 17:25:45] PunkBuster Client (v2.323 | A0) Enabled
[05.10.2013 17:25:45] Game Version [1.107.247413.0]
[05.10.2013 17:25:45] Connected to Server 62.247.128.100:1234:21500
[05.10.2013 17:25:48] PB Services socket initialized
[05.10.2013 17:25:50] PB Server assigned guid = ............................9f0e
[05.10.2013 17:25:50] Receiving from PB Server (w v1.821 | A1376 C2.323)
[05.10.2013 17:26:03] PnkBstrA successfully loaded PnkBstrB
[05.10.2013 17:26:06] PnkBstrB service installed and started successfully
[05.10.2013 17:28:41] Service Communication Failure: PnkBstrB.exe heartbeats stopped
[05.10.2013 17:28:41] WARNING: PB Kicks for Name Stealing and Level 1 PB Restrictions on this Server
[05.10.2013 17:28:41] Receiving from PB Server (w v1.821 | A1376 C2.323)
[05.10.2013 17:28:54] PnkBstrB service installed and started successfully
[05.10.2013 17:29:44] Master Query Sent to (MASTER6.EVENBALANCE.COM) 50.62.76.68
[05.10.2013 17:29:46] Received Master Security Information
[05.10.2013 17:35:37] PunkBuster Client (v2.323 | A1376) Enabled
[05.10.2013 17:35:37] Connected to Server 62.247.128.100:1234:21100
[05.10.2013 17:35:57] Service Communication Failure: PnkBstrB.exe heartbeats stopped
[05.10.2013 17:36:15] WARNING: PB Kicks for Name Stealing and Level 1 PB Restrictions on this Server
[05.10.2013 17:36:15] PB Server assigned guid = ............................9f0e
[05.10.2013 17:36:15] Receiving from PB Server (w v1.821 | A1376 C2.323)
[05.10.2013 17:36:26] PnkBstrB service installed and started successfully
[05.10.2013 18:36:46] Attempting to resolve master3.evenbalance.com
[05.10.2013 18:36:46] Resolved to [50.23.100.138] (19)
[05.10.2013 18:36:46] PunkBuster Client (v2.260 | A0) Enabled
[05.10.2013 18:36:46] Game Version [1.107.247413.0]
[05.10.2013 18:36:46] Not Connected to a Server
[05.10.2013 18:36:46] Connected to Server 62.247.128.100:1234:21100
[05.10.2013 18:37:57] PB Services socket initialized
[05.10.2013 18:37:57] WARNING: PB Kicks for Name Stealing and Level 1 PB Restrictions on this Server
[05.10.2013 18:37:57] PB Server assigned guid = ............................9f0e
[05.10.2013 18:37:57] Receiving from PB Server (w v1.821 | A1376 C2.323)
[05.10.2013 18:37:57] Changing PunkBuster homepath to [C:\Users\~\AppData\Local\PunkBuster\HEROES\pb\]
[05.10.2013 18:37:57] Attempting to resolve master2.evenbalance.com
[05.10.2013 18:37:57] Resolved to [50.62.76.68] (19)
[05.10.2013 18:37:58] PunkBuster Client (v2.323 | A0) Enabled
[05.10.2013 18:37:58] Game Version [1.107.247413.0]
[05.10.2013 18:37:58] Connected to Server 62.247.128.100:1234:21100
[05.10.2013 18:38:04] PB Services socket initialized
[05.10.2013 18:38:06] PB Server assigned guid = ............................9f0e
[05.10.2013 18:38:06] Receiving from PB Server (w v1.821 | A1376 C2.323)
[05.10.2013 18:38:17] Service Communication Failure: PnkBstrB.exe handshaking failed
[05.10.2013 18:38:27] PnkBstrA successfully loaded PnkBstrB
[05.10.2013 18:38:30] PnkBstrB service installed and started successfully
[05.10.2013 18:40:20] PunkBuster Client (v2.323 | A1376) Enabled
[05.10.2013 18:40:20] Connected to Server 62.247.128.100:1234:21200
[05.10.2013 18:41:12] Service Communication Failure: PnkBstrB.exe heartbeats stopped
[05.10.2013 18:41:49] PunkBuster Client (v2.323 | A1376) Enabled
[05.10.2013 18:41:49] Not Connected to a Server
[05.10.2013 18:41:49] Connected to Server 62.247.128.100:1234:21200
[05.10.2013 18:43:32] Attempting to resolve master7.evenbalance.com
[05.10.2013 18:43:32] Resolved to [50.62.82.210] (19)
[05.10.2013 18:43:32] PunkBuster Client (v2.260 | A0) Enabled
[05.10.2013 18:43:32] Game Version [1.107.247413.0]
[05.10.2013 18:43:32] Not Connected to a Server
[05.10.2013 18:43:32] Connected to Server 62.247.128.100:1234:21200
[05.10.2013 18:44:22] WARNING: PB Kicks for Name Stealing and Level 1 PB Restrictions on this Server
[05.10.2013 18:44:22] PB Server assigned guid = ............................9f0e
[05.10.2013 18:44:22] Receiving from PB Server (w v1.821 | A1376 C2.323)
[05.10.2013 18:44:23] Changing PunkBuster homepath to [C:\Users\~\AppData\Local\PunkBuster\HEROES\pb\]
[05.10.2013 18:44:23] Attempting to resolve master3.evenbalance.com
[05.10.2013 18:44:23] Resolved to [50.23.100.138] (19)
[05.10.2013 18:44:23] PunkBuster Client (v2.323 | A0) Enabled
[05.10.2013 18:44:23] Game Version [1.107.247413.0]
[05.10.2013 18:44:23] Connected to Server 62.247.128.100:1234:21200
[05.10.2013 18:44:26] PB Services socket initialized
[05.10.2013 18:44:30] PnkBstrA successfully loaded PnkBstrB
[05.10.2013 18:44:32] PB Server assigned guid = ............................9f0e
[05.10.2013 18:44:32] Receiving from PB Server (w v1.821 | A1376 C2.323)
[05.10.2013 18:44:33] PnkBstrB service installed and started successfully
[05.10.2013 18:48:23] Master Query Sent to (MASTER6.EVENBALANCE.COM) 119.81.16.194
[05.10.2013 18:48:24] Received Master Security Information
[05.10.2013 18:52:17] Removing "Indi.......oser" 7e6c (2 minutes) Violation (AIMBOT) #50751
[05.10.2013 19:04:31] Service Communication Failure: PnkBstrB.exe heartbeats stopped
[05.10.2013 19:04:49] WARNING: PB Kicks for Name Stealing and Level 1 PB Restrictions on this Server
[05.10.2013 19:04:49] Receiving from PB Server (w v1.821 | A1376 C2.323)
[05.10.2013 19:05:00] PnkBstrB service installed and started successfully
[05.10.2013 19:11:27] Removing "Ind.....ser" c31f (2 minutes) Violation (AIMBOT) #50751
[05.10.2013 19:18:23] Master Query Sent to (MASTER8.EVENBALANCE.COM) 5.153.14.146
[05.10.2013 19:18:24] Received Master Security Information
[05.10.2013 19:31:37] Removing "Fl....iper" 1a43 (0 minutes) Time Out trying to Update PB Client
[05.10.2013 19:35:54] Service Communication Failure: PnkBstrB.exe heartbeats stopped
[05.10.2013 19:35:55] WARNING: PB Kicks for Name Stealing and Level 1 PB Restrictions on this Server
[05.10.2013 19:35:55] Receiving from PB Server (w v1.821 | A1376 C2.323)
[05.10.2013 19:36:06] PnkBstrB service installed and started successfully
[05.10.2013 19:48:23] Master Query Sent to (HEROES1.EVENBALANCE.COM) 50.62.82.210
[05.10.2013 19:48:24] Received Master Security Information
[05.10.2013 20:06:55] WARNING: PB Kicks for Name Stealing and Level 1 PB Restrictions on this Server
[05.10.2013 20:06:55] Receiving from PB Server (w v1.821 | A1376 C2.323)
[05.10.2013 20:18:23] Master Query Sent to (MASTER5.EVENBALANCE.COM) 50.63.136.194
[05.10.2013 20:18:24] Received Master Security Information
[05.10.2013 20:21:51] Removing "Indi........ser" 7e6c (2 minutes) Violation (AIMBOT) #50751
[05.10.2013 20:35:23] Service Communication Failure: PnkBstrB.exe heartbeats stopped
[05.10.2013 20:35:23] WARNING: PB Kicks for Name Stealing and Level 1 PB Restrictions on this Server
[05.10.2013 20:35:23] Receiving from PB Server (w v1.821 | A1376 C2.323)
[05.10.2013 20:35:37] PnkBstrB service installed and started successfully
[05.10.2013 20:48:23] Master Query Sent to (MASTER6.EVENBALANCE.COM) 50.62.76.68
[05.10.2013 20:48:24] Received Master Security Information
[05.10.2013 21:13:57] Service Communication Failure: PnkBstrB.exe heartbeats stopped
[05.10.2013 21:13:58] WARNING: PB Kicks for Name Stealing and Level 1 PB Restrictions on this Server
[05.10.2013 21:13:58] Receiving from PB Server (w v1.821 | A1376 C2.323)
[05.10.2013 21:14:12] PnkBstrB service installed and started successfully
[05.10.2013 21:18:23] Master Query Sent to (MASTER8.EVENBALANCE.COM) 5.153.14.146
[05.10.2013 21:18:24] Received Master Security Information
[05.10.2013 21:46:23] Attempting to resolve master1.evenbalance.com
[05.10.2013 21:46:23] Resolved to [192.155.198.210] (19)
[05.10.2013 21:46:23] PunkBuster Client (v2.260 | A0) Enabled
[05.10.2013 21:46:23] Game Version [1.107.247413.0]
[05.10.2013 21:46:23] Not Connected to a Server
[05.10.2013 21:46:23] Connected to Server 62.247.128.100:1234:21300
[05.10.2013 21:47:20] WARNING: PB Kicks for Name Stealing and Level 1 PB Restrictions on this Server
[05.10.2013 21:47:20] PB Server assigned guid = ............................1553
[05.10.2013 21:47:20] Receiving from PB Server (w v1.821 | A1376 C2.323)
[05.10.2013 21:47:21] Changing PunkBuster homepath to [C:\Users\~\AppData\Local\PunkBuster\HEROES\pb\]
[05.10.2013 21:47:21] Attempting to resolve master2.evenbalance.com
[05.10.2013 21:47:21] Resolved to [50.62.76.68] (19)
[05.10.2013 21:47:21] PunkBuster Client (v2.323 | A0) Enabled
[05.10.2013 21:47:21] Game Version [1.107.247413.0]
[05.10.2013 21:47:21] Connected to Server 62.247.128.100:1234:21300
[05.10.2013 21:47:24] PB Services socket initialized
[05.10.2013 21:47:28] PnkBstrA successfully loaded PnkBstrB
[05.10.2013 21:47:30] PB Server assigned guid = ............................1553
[05.10.2013 21:47:30] Receiving from PB Server (w v1.821 | A1376 C2.323)
[05.10.2013 21:47:34] PnkBstrB service installed and started successfully
[05.10.2013 21:48:12] PunkBuster Client (v2.323 | A1376) Enabled
[05.10.2013 21:48:12] Not Connected to a Server
[05.10.2013 21:48:12] Connected to Server 62.247.128.100:1234:28567
[05.10.2013 21:48:48] Service Communication Failure: PnkBstrB.exe heartbeats stopped
[05.10.2013 21:48:49] WARNING: PB Kicks for Name Stealing and Level 1 PB Restrictions on this Server
[05.10.2013 21:48:49] PB Server assigned guid = ............................1553
[05.10.2013 21:48:49] Receiving from PB Server (w v1.821 | A1376 C2.323)
[05.10.2013 21:49:01] PnkBstrB service installed and started successfully
[05.10.2013 21:51:21] Master Query Sent to (HEROES1.EVENBALANCE.COM) 50.62.82.210
[05.10.2013 21:51:22] Received Master Security Information
[05.10.2013 21:55:04] Removing "Ry..we" d6be (0 minutes) Time Out trying to Update PB Client
[05.10.2013 22:17:49] Removing "ry...we" d11f (0 minutes) Time Out trying to Update PB Client

Code:
[05.24.2013 18:35:03] Attempting to resolve master3.evenbalance.com
[05.24.2013 18:35:03] Resolved to [50.23.100.138] (19)
[05.24.2013 18:35:03] PunkBuster Client (v2.323 | A0) Enabled
[05.24.2013 18:35:03] Game Version [1.110.248237.0]
[05.24.2013 18:35:03] Connected to Server 62.247.128.100:1234:28567
[05.24.2013 18:36:28] PB Services socket initialized
[05.24.2013 18:36:29] WARNING: PB Kicks for Name Stealing and Level 1 PB Restrictions on this Server
[05.24.2013 18:36:29] PB Server assigned guid = ............................1553
[05.24.2013 18:36:29] Receiving from PB Server (w v1.821 | A1376 C2.323)
[05.24.2013 18:36:37] PnkBstrA successfully loaded PnkBstrB
[05.24.2013 18:36:40] PnkBstrB service installed and started successfully
[05.24.2013 18:39:03] Master Query Sent to (HEROES1.EVENBALANCE.COM) 50.62.82.210
[05.24.2013 18:39:04] Received Master Security Information
[05.24.2013 18:52:17] WARNING: PB Kicks for Name Stealing and Level 1 PB Restrictions on this Server
[05.24.2013 18:52:17] Receiving from PB Server (w v1.821 | A1376 C2.323)
[05.24.2013 19:08:40] Removing "TOI.........eFun" 1a88 (2 minutes) Violation (AIMBOT) #50512
[05.24.2013 19:09:03] Master Query Sent to (MASTER5.EVENBALANCE.COM) 50.63.136.194
[05.24.2013 19:09:04] Received Master Security Information
[05.24.2013 19:25:02] Service Communication Failure: PnkBstrB.exe heartbeats stopped
[05.24.2013 19:25:03] WARNING: PB Kicks for Name Stealing and Level 1 PB Restrictions on this Server
[05.24.2013 19:25:03] Receiving from PB Server (w v1.821 | A1376 C2.323)
[05.24.2013 19:25:17] PnkBstrB service installed and started successfully
[05.24.2013 19:32:51] Removing "Su.....og" 6612 (0 minutes) RESTRICTION: Service Communication Failure: PnkBstrB.exe initialization failed
[05.24.2013 19:39:03] Master Query Sent to (MASTER6.EVENBALANCE.COM) 50.62.76.68
[05.24.2013 19:39:04] Received Master Security Information
[05.24.2013 20:19:44] PunkBuster Client (v2.323 | A1376) Enabled
[05.24.2013 20:19:44] Master Query Sent to (MASTER8.EVENBALANCE.COM) 5.153.14.146
[05.24.2013 20:20:08] Service Communication Failure: PnkBstrB.exe heartbeats stopped
[05.24.2013 20:20:08] Received Master Security Information
[05.24.2013 20:20:31] WARNING: PB Kicks for Name Stealing and Level 1 PB Restrictions on this Server
[05.24.2013 20:20:31] Receiving from PB Server (w v1.821 | A1376 C2.323)
[05.24.2013 20:20:42] PnkBstrB service installed and started successfully
[05.24.2013 20:36:50] Removing "Tr......rog" c621 (0 minutes) Time Out trying to Update PB Client
[05.24.2013 20:48:53] WARNING: PB Kicks for Name Stealing and Level 1 PB Restrictions on this Server
[05.24.2013 20:48:54] Receiving from PB Server (w v1.821 | A1376 C2.323)
[05.24.2013 20:49:44] Master Query Sent to (HEROES1.EVENBALANCE.COM) 50.62.82.210
[05.24.2013 20:49:45] Received Master Security Information
[05.24.2013 21:21:30] PunkBuster Client (v2.323 | A1376) Enabled
[05.24.2013 21:21:31] Master Query Sent to (MASTER5.EVENBALANCE.COM) 192.155.198.210
[05.24.2013 21:22:01] Service Communication Failure: PnkBstrB.exe heartbeats stopped
[05.24.2013 21:22:01] Received Master Security Information
[05.24.2013 21:22:23] WARNING: PB Kicks for Name Stealing and Level 1 PB Restrictions on this Server
[05.24.2013 21:22:23] Receiving from PB Server (w v1.821 | A1376 C2.323)
[05.24.2013 21:22:34] PnkBstrB service installed and started successfully
[05.24.2013 21:37:04] Service Communication Failure: PnkBstrB.exe heartbeats stopped
[05.24.2013 21:37:05] WARNING: PB Kicks for Name Stealing and Level 1 PB Restrictions on this Server
[05.24.2013 21:37:05] Receiving from PB Server (w v1.821 | A1376 C2.323)
[05.24.2013 21:37:17] PnkBstrB service installed and started successfully
[05.24.2013 21:50:07] PunkBuster Client (v2.323 | A1376) Enabled
[05.24.2013 21:50:07] Connected to Server 62.247.128.100:1234:21500
[05.24.2013 21:51:12] Service Communication Failure: PnkBstrB.exe heartbeats stopped
[05.24.2013 21:51:13] WARNING: PB Kicks for Name Stealing and Level 1 PB Restrictions on this Server
[05.24.2013 21:51:13] PB Server assigned guid = ............................1553
[05.24.2013 21:51:13] Receiving from PB Server (w v1.821 | A1376 C2.323)
[05.24.2013 21:51:25] PnkBstrB service installed and started successfully
[05.24.2013 21:51:31] Master Query Sent to (MASTER6.EVENBALANCE.COM) 119.81.16.194
[05.24.2013 21:51:33] Received Master Security Information
[05.24.2013 22:07:08] Service Communication Failure: PnkBstrB.exe heartbeats stopped
[05.24.2013 22:07:09] WARNING: PB Kicks for Name Stealing and Level 1 PB Restrictions on this Server
[05.24.2013 22:07:09] Receiving from PB Server (w v1.821 | A1376 C2.323)
[05.24.2013 22:07:21] PnkBstrB service installed and started successfully
[05.24.2013 22:21:31] Master Query Sent to (MASTER8.EVENBALANCE.COM) 50.62.81.163
[05.24.2013 22:21:33] Received Master Security Information
[05.24.2013 22:35:33] Removing "no.....li" d7b5 (0 minutes) RESTRICTION: Service Communication Failure: PnkBstrA.exe
[05.24.2013 22:46:30] Service Communication Failure: PnkBstrB.exe heartbeats stopped
[05.24.2013 22:46:48] WARNING: PB Kicks for Name Stealing and Level 1 PB Restrictions on this Server
[05.24.2013 22:46:48] Receiving from PB Server (w v1.821 | A1376 C2.323)
[05.24.2013 22:47:00] PnkBstrB service installed and started successfully
[05.24.2013 22:51:31] Master Query Sent to (HEROES1.EVENBALANCE.COM) 50.62.82.210
[05.24.2013 22:51:33] Received Master Security Information
[05.24.2013 23:06:54] Attempting to resolve master2.evenbalance.com
[05.24.2013 23:06:55] Resolved to [50.62.76.68] (19)
[05.24.2013 23:06:55] PunkBuster Client (v2.323 | A0) Enabled
[05.24.2013 23:06:55] Game Version [1.110.248237.0]
[05.24.2013 23:06:55] Connected to Server 62.247.128.100:1234:21100
[05.24.2013 23:08:03] PB Services socket initialized
[05.24.2013 23:08:04] WARNING: PB Kicks for Name Stealing and Level 1 PB Restrictions on this Server
[05.24.2013 23:08:04] PB Server assigned guid = ............................1553
[05.24.2013 23:08:04] Receiving from PB Server (w v1.821 | A1376 C2.323)
[05.24.2013 23:08:10] PnkBstrA successfully loaded PnkBstrB
[05.24.2013 23:08:12] PnkBstrB service installed and started successfully
[05.24.2013 23:10:54] Master Query Sent to (MASTER6.EVENBALANCE.COM) 50.62.76.68
[05.24.2013 23:10:56] Received Master Security Information
[05.24.2013 23:54:02] Attempting to resolve master7.evenbalance.com
[05.24.2013 23:54:02] Resolved to [50.62.82.210] (19)
[05.24.2013 23:54:02] PunkBuster Client (v2.323 | A0) Enabled
[05.24.2013 23:54:02] Game Version [1.110.248237.0]
[05.24.2013 23:54:03] Connected to Server 62.247.128.100:1234:21400
[05.24.2013 23:54:44] WARNING: PB Kicks for Name Stealing and Level 1 PB Restrictions on this Server
[05.24.2013 23:54:44] PB Server assigned guid = ............................f9d6
[05.24.2013 23:54:45] Receiving from PB Server (w v1.821 | A1376 C2.323)
[05.24.2013 23:54:45] PB Services socket initialized
[05.24.2013 23:54:56] PnkBstrA successfully loaded PnkBstrB
[05.24.2013 23:54:59] PnkBstrB service installed and started successfully
[05.24.2013 23:58:02] Master Query Sent to (HEROES1.EVENBALANCE.COM) 50.62.82.210
[05.24.2013 23:58:04] Received Master Security Information

Please explain...!

P.S. As you can see, even after updating punkbuster myself... manually, I still get PnkBstrB errors... SMH.

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(This post was last modified: 27-05-2013 02:03 PM by ironsiolder123.)
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27-05-2013, 01:45 PM | Post: #2
XSINESTROVX 
The only real 'bans' are those from GGC stream, that's why, my friend, Game Arena servers are the epitome of bovine excrement when it comes to 'Anti-Cheat Protection', they don't have any mechanism to ban/detect hackers and PB just won't cut it anymore, just stay clear of Game Arena severs (thats what I do), I now play in GGC protected servers ONLY, and I have not seen a single hacker since. Its hard since I live in Australia and GA servers are our main community server.

Also here are further reasons for why you shouldn't play on Game Arena servers:
-Map rotations have not changed for a very long time, same old winter/night maps only
-Soldier punish zones not set for home base = base raping
-Shtty auto-admin not accepting the most fundamental of commands 'help', 'ping' etc
-But the worst is the fact that it has no anti-cheat security, it has the highest population of hackers withinit, and has proved to be a breeding ground for them

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27-05-2013, 01:59 PM | Post: #3
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Well, being GameArena and running public Battlefield Heroes game servers, 6 of at the moment, I (and I'm sure many others) expected PunkBuster to be active and working properly, hence why I asked the question above.

I play on GameArena (public) and MultiPlay (private) servers all the time, and I didn't think they differed apart from the auto-admin tools and GGC streaming/protection, and the admins of course.

So my question still stands... what's up with my pbcl.log file showing all those aimbot violations, yet I still see those characters play on GameArena (Australian) servers after the bans apparently happened?

PunkBuster is busted?

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27-05-2013, 03:54 PM | Post: #4
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(27-05-2013 01:59 PM)mercenary[kobk] Wrote:  So my question still stands... what's up with my pbcl.log file showing all those aimbot violations, yet I still see those characters play on GameArena (Australian) servers after the bans apparently happened?

PunkBuster is busted?

Punkbuster doesn't quite work they way you think. It will kick someone it catches hacking but once they upgrade that hack they can play again. It doesn't impose a hard ban. Only a kick while the hack is detected. It's more like a second chance. The only permanent bans from them are if you try to alter PB code. So, Punkbuster acts more like a police officer. It catches you speeding and gives you a ticket (timeout). GGC works more like a Judge that sentences everyone to jail time. It takes the list from the PB logs and uploads them to the GGC server. There it holds a grudge, if you will, and completely bans you from any server streaming to them. Not only this but it will kick every character on that account out of GGC servers since it knows you cheated at some point in time. This not only lasts until the hack is updated or removed but indefinitely.

This is why so many people rave about GGC. However, GGC uses PB cheat logs as it's main method for banning. Sure, they ban from screen shots as well but those are very time consuming. GGC doesn't detect cheats and piggybacks off PB. This explains why some cheaters play in GGC servers with no problems.

Still GGC is the best tool we have to keep known cheaters out of games. If ever caught, you will forever be banned from their servers while the stream is active.

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27-05-2013, 04:12 PM | Post: #5
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(27-05-2013 03:54 PM)Madface Wrote:  Not only this but it will kick every character on that account out of GGC servers since it knows you cheated at some point in time.

GGC itself only bans the 1 GUID/Character, it doesn't ban the whole account.
This is why admin tools have the GGC integration, which does keep out the whole account.

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27-05-2013, 05:28 PM | Post: #6
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(27-05-2013 04:12 PM)RIC0H Wrote:  
(27-05-2013 03:54 PM)Madface Wrote:  Not only this but it will kick every character on that account out of GGC servers since it knows you cheated at some point in time.

GGC itself only bans the 1 GUID/Character, it doesn't ban the whole account.
This is why admin tools have the GGC integration, which does keep out the whole account.

Thanks for the clarification. I see many people kicked and it says they cheated on another character.

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28-05-2013, 08:41 AM | Post: #7
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From my understanding, if PunkBuster catches you hacking on a specific character (see the original post), then that character is permanently marked as banned for aimbot violation.

So after they have been caught for a violation, no matter if they 'upgrade' their hacks, the character they got caught using the aimbot on is permanently banned.. correct? That is my understanding of PunkBuster anyway.

GGC is great if you ask me, as if a user has 10 characters and is caught using a hack on just one of his characters, then ALL characters on his account are black marked, so they are unable to play on ANY of their characters on GGC enabled game servers. ALL HAIL GGC!

So it still comes back to my original question... In my pbcl.log file, I see characters being kicked for aimbot violation from punkbuster which were from GameArena (Australian) servers... yet the other night I saw 2 of the actual characters that were kicked for aimbot violations (according to my log file) playing BFH for a full round or more, no kick, no bans... nothing... so what gives?

PunkBuster seems to be useless/broken/meh.

PunkBuster = blacklists the single characters GUID on the given account.
GGC = blacklists ALL characters GUID's on the given account.

Like I said, GGC FTW!

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28-05-2013, 09:38 AM | Post: #8
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(27-05-2013 01:45 PM)XSINESTROVX Wrote:  -Map rotations have not changed for a very long time, same old winter/night maps only
-Soldier punish zones not set for home base = base raping
-Shtty auto-admin not accepting the most fundamental of commands 'help', 'ping' etc
-But the worst is the fact that it has no anti-cheat security, it has the highest population of hackers withinit, and has proved to be a breeding ground for them

-Map rotations are set in order of maps released, each server has every single map/conversion of map on it.
-Punish zone cannot be disabled, its just not set properly on some version of maps
-GA doesnt use autoadmin

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28-05-2013, 09:39 AM | Post: #9
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28-05-2013, 02:24 PM | Post: #10
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I wouldn't mind having a blue's input on this topic... green's too?

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28-05-2013, 03:09 PM | Post: #11
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The message I hate most to see is:

"_____ has been kicked by PunkBuster for violation: Aimbot 000190001."

Kicked? BAN them!

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28-05-2013, 03:32 PM | Post: #12
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(28-05-2013 08:41 AM)mercenary[kobk] Wrote:  PunkBuster = blacklists the single characters GUID on the given account.
GGC = blacklists ALL characters GUID's on the given account.

This is not correct. GGC only black lists the individual character that was caught using the cheat. That means the player can join back to any GGC streaming server with another character on the same account and play without hassle (So long as that server isn't running XTIANRCON or Autoadmin). This is why it is SO VERY IMPORTANT to use admintools that integrate GGC protection (XTIANRCON, Autoadmin)

The above listed admintools have the ability to check all heroes against the GGC database. If any of the heroes come back with a banned status the player get's kicked. This is something that GGC alone does not do.

As far as screenshot banning goes check out R.A.D.A.R - It has detected over 600 cheater screenshots on just 12 servers since it was released just a few months ago.

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28-05-2013, 04:56 PM | Post: #13
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(28-05-2013 08:41 AM)mercenary[kobk] Wrote:  PunkBuster = kicks the single characters GUID from a single server. (the player is free to rejoin the server without the cheat on and/or with a new undetected cheat)
GGC = bans the one characters GUID that was caught cheating and then kicks that single GUID from the other servers that are streaming.
GGC Integration = Kicks ALL heroes on a single account that the one GUID is banned on.

FTFY

so..

PunkBuster - Kicks a single GUID (but free to rejoin the server on that GUID or another hero)
GGC - Bans a single GUID (cannot rejoin the server on that GUID, but can on another hero)
GGC Integration Bans the whole account (cannot rejoin the server on that GUID or another hero on the same account)

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29-05-2013, 09:20 AM | Post: #14
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Quote:PunkBuster - Kicks a single GUID (but free to rejoin the server on that GUID or another hero)
GGC - Bans a single GUID (cannot rejoin the server on that GUID, but can on another hero)
GGC Integration Bans the whole account (cannot rejoin the server on that GUID or another hero on the same account)

I'm still a bit confused... so you are saying that if a player is caught cheating on one character by PunkBuster, and they get kicked/banned from that server as that character, then all they have to do is close and reload BFH without any hacks on and they are able to resume playing on that SAME character on the SAME server they just got kicked/banned from? (The same GUID).

This doesn't make sense to me, as it makes a GUID ban totally irrelevant via the PunkBuster cheat system, as a ban "isn't really a ban" (hence the original topic).

Like I said, from my understanding, PunkBuster bans were permanent bans on the character (GUID) that was caught cheating/hacking. For example... get caught hacking on character "nohaxhere" with GUID "12345678" by PunkBuster, means the GUID of "12345678" is now blacklisted via the PunkBuster database integration with BFH, so that character/GUID is permanently banned/blacklisted... so that character on the users account is NOT able to play another game/round whether using cheats or not.

Refer to my original post as I am still not getting a straight/proper answer in what I asked.

My PB logs show kicked/banned characters on GA servers, yet those exact same characters rejoined the same server(s) and played again without any ramifications whatsoever = cheat system defunct.

Again, I would like a blue's input on this topic, as it seems the whole explanation of the cheat system(s) in place (PunkBuster and GGC) are incorrect.

And it still doesn't answer my original question....

@WhyYouMad? R.A.D.A.R is another 3rd party aspect of catching (and banning?) hackers/cheats, excellent work I must say!

Taken from http://www.evenbalance.com/publications/...m#commands ...

Quote:PB_SV_Ban [name or slot #] [displayed_reason] | [optional_private_reason]
Removes a player from the game and permanently bans that player from the server based on the player's guid (based on the cdkey); the ban is logged and also written to the pbbans.dat file in the pb folder

PB_SV_BanGuid [guid] [player_name] [IP_Address] [reason]
Adds a guid directly to PB's permanent ban list; if the player_name or IP_Address are not known, we recommend using "???"

^ this explains that bans are permanent based on name and/or ip address and/or player name and/or guid, yet from what I have seen of late (comparing my pb log to characters still playing in-game) this seems to be untrue.

Quoted from the file http://www.evenbalance.com/publications/...violations

Quote:PunkBuster software running on game servers and also on the computers of connected players during gameplay is continuously validating each player with respect to avoiding violations. A violation can be raised by PunkBuster for various types of things depending on how each Server Administrator chooses to configure PunkBuster on the game server. The various categories of violations are explained below.

When a violation is raised, PunkBuster announces this violation to all connected players in the game and then saves information about the violation into a PunkBuster log file on the server. In most cases, the player associated with the violation will also be removed from the server for a few minutes. It is up to each Server Admin whether or not to permanently ban players for violations raised by PunkBuster.

Note that some servers are non-dedicated. That means that one of the players is running the game server while also playing inside the game (known as a localhost player). If PunkBuster raises a violation on such a localhost player, the violation will be reported, but the localhost player will not be removed from the game. The other players will be alerted to the fact that PunkBuster is foregoing the kick due to the violation being raised on the localhost player.

Steps to resolve violations are given below with each violation category. Any player who has problems resolving a violation should fill out a trouble ticket here for assistance. When requesting assistance, be sure to specify the violation number raised and give as much additional information as possible.

If there are NO permanent bans put in place for any given character/GUID, then there are literally NO consequences for hacking/cheating based purely on the PunkBuster cheat system. I don't see this as fair at all, IMO if you get caught cheating, that GUID should be permanently banned (unable to play another game/round with that character). Even better, BAN every single character on that users account. This whole ban system needs a revamp, as like I said, there are little to no consequences for using hacks/cheats.

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29-05-2013, 03:53 PM | Post: #15
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(29-05-2013 09:20 AM)mercenary[kobk] Wrote:  I'm still a bit confused... so you are saying that if a player is caught cheating on one character by PunkBuster, and they get kicked/banned from that server as that character, then all they have to do is close and reload BFH without any hacks on and they are able to resume playing on that SAME character on the SAME server they just got kicked/banned from? (The same GUID).

yes.
unless PB issues a global ban, then this would keep that 1 GUID out of every server.

(29-05-2013 09:20 AM)mercenary[kobk] Wrote:  Like I said, from my understanding, PunkBuster bans were permanent bans on the character (GUID) that was caught cheating/hacking. For example... get caught hacking on character "nohaxhere" with GUID "12345678" by PunkBuster, means the GUID of "12345678" is now blacklisted via the PunkBuster database integration with BFH, so that character/GUID is permanently banned/blacklisted... so that character on the users account is NOT able to play another game/round whether using cheats or not.

If it happened this way, then there would be no need for ACCs such as GGC.

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30-05-2013, 09:20 AM | Post: #16
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(29-05-2013 03:53 PM)RIC0H Wrote:  
(29-05-2013 09:20 AM)mercenary[kobk] Wrote:  I'm still a bit confused... so you are saying that if a player is caught cheating on one character by PunkBuster, and they get kicked/banned from that server as that character, then all they have to do is close and reload BFH without any hacks on and they are able to resume playing on that SAME character on the SAME server they just got kicked/banned from? (The same GUID).

yes.

What is the sense in that?

So you can hack/cheat "just as long as you don't get caught", but if you do get caught, just close and reload the game with no hacks (or find new undetected hacks) and continue to play as that same character?

You may as well not have any cheat program associated with BFH in that case, as there are no repercussions for players that cheat/hack. SMH. No wonder BFH has an abundance of cheaters still.

Load BFH, load the hacks, play as character "nohaxhere", get caught by punkbuster, close BFH, reload BFH with no hacks, play as character "nohaxhere", continue playing... = no consequences. yet that player "nohaxhere" has annoyed the cr*p out of many legit players, caused them to quit out the game due to the hacks, and the player "nohaxhere" has leveled up faster than he should due to the hacks used.

Again... SMH.

Once you get caught cheating on any given character, that character should be permanently banned so you are unable to play that character EVER again (they are able to still use other characters on their account, just not the one that was caught cheating by punkbuster).

Tell me... am I understanding this correctly? as you did indeed answer YES to my last question (which I quoted in this post).

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06-06-2013, 05:34 AM | Post: #17
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No more insight or replies to my questions regarding hackers and punkbuster bans?

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06-06-2013, 04:20 PM | Post: #18
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(30-05-2013 09:20 AM)mercenary[kobk] Wrote:  Tell me... am I understanding this correctly?

you are spot on dude.
but note that this applies to every game that runs Punkbuster and not just this one Wink

(30-05-2013 09:20 AM)mercenary[kobk] Wrote:  Once you get caught cheating on any given character, that character should be permanently banned so you are unable to play that character EVER again (they are able to still use other characters on their account, just not the one that was caught cheating by punkbuster).

This happens when servers stream to ACC's such as GGC and/or PBBans.
(a PB violation kick is automatically turned into a PB violation ban)
/but the ban on that GUID will only be enforced via the ACC that the GUID is banned from, so the GUID can join a server that is not streaming to that ACC.

In an ideal world, all PB violations would automatically become PB global bans.
(so that GUID would then be banned on every server without the need of an ACC)

For those that do not know, ACC = Anti-Cheat Community.

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07-06-2013, 07:03 AM | Post: #19
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Thanks for the response RIC0H.

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07-06-2013, 07:14 AM | Post: #20
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(28-05-2013 09:39 AM)Tander09 Wrote:  this is why pb is S***
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