Is FF too valuable for gunners?

[orpheus######]

I really only use frenzy fire when I run out of healing widgets.
So I don't find it that useful for me.

[WorldBosh]

(27-07-2012 12:30 AM)orpheus###### Wrote:  I really only use frenzy fire when I run out of healing widgets.
So I don't find it that useful for me.

I used to use it that way as well....I incorporated 1 FF into my playstyle and find it to be amazing lmao. Of course, the healing isn't spectacular but the accuracy boost perfect.


(I take back what I said in the previous thread)

[The_WUUSTER]

(27-07-2012 12:21 AM)ghostmurder Wrote:  

(26-07-2012 10:18 PM)The_WUUSTER Wrote:  I'll bump the first post I made.

If you rely on FF to do well, you're playing the class wrong.

(26-07-2012 08:24 PM)ghostmurder Wrote:  also, why do people argue it was better before? lvl 1 was all one needed.

Maybe because there are people who actually used higher IEG levels before the nerf? If level 1 is all you need, why the f*ck were people like Kruszakus and Blackleader advocating for 5? Why did I use 5 IEG? Am I an idiot for doing so?

5 IEG had an 8m radius, and a shorter cooldown (cooldown not so much anymore since the "re-buff"). IEG 5 actually ate all the explosives!

Then they had to nerf that and over-buff GS. Now 5 IEG doesn't completely absorb GS.

i agree that 5IEG should completely protect you from explosives and i agree that 5IEG definetly had its purpose. but i was able to eat TT's, most grenades and tank shots with 1IEG before the patch and that's pretty ridiculous for a lvl 1 ability

Which is the biggest reason why gunners were OP. B/c 1 IEG did the job for most of them, and they could invest their points into more powerful abilities like FF and Keg, arguably the 2 most powerful abilities a gunner has (besides Leg-it of course). But now, since 4-5 IEG is a must, now you have to pick only 1 without making other sacrifices.

[epicchickengod]

Maybe they should buff IEG back to the way it was on level 4 and 5, and maybe a keg buff cause the thing cant do damage for nuts on the street.

[Harjan117]

for keg you just need to aim better
before the update you just had to throw it and you nearly always hit something or someone
now you cant do that anymore but if you do hit them with the keg now they are near dead( if not completely)

[Drugie]

For a player who's main/only attribute is a good/great aim, FF is definitely an invaluable ability for them. However, for the average casual gamer (since this is intended to be a casual game) FF won't be all too useful.

[The_WUUSTER]

Just switched from 4 Keg to 4 FF on my gunner for a change of pace (and my VP's almost gone).

The nice 1v1 advantage is nice, but I miss being able to do 100+ numbers on enemies. Not to mention since I mostly play on infantry maps there wasn't really any reliable healing sources I could depend on.

Gonna switch back to Keg since my VP's draining at the same rate anyways.

[WorldBosh]

(27-07-2012 12:52 PM)epicchickengod Wrote:  Maybe they should buff IEG back to the way it was on level 4 and 5, and maybe a keg buff cause the thing cant do damage for nuts on the street.

Don't know about you, but 7/10 of my kegs do 40+ damage ...the rest are duds QQ.

[epicchickengod]

Well, my level 5 keg does around 31 damage, and thats a waste on 5 points into it when i can get myself a abilty that heals make a mg accurate and kill everything. ._.

[WorldBosh]

(28-07-2012 01:01 PM)epicchickengod Wrote:  Well, my level 5 keg does around 31 damage, and thats a waste on 5 points into it when i can get myself a abilty that heals make a mg accurate and kill everything. ._.

Gotta use it like a fat hand grenade .

[The_WUUSTER]

^Exactly. Grenades do huge damage, but they have to be right next to the target. More or less that applies to Keg now. Before you can just throw it and expect high numbers; now you actually have to aim it. Ofc the higher level Keg the better b/c the radius increases.

I currently use 4 Keg on my Royal gunner and 5 on my National. Almost all the time I manage to hit good damage with it.

[epicchickengod]

So i have to carefully aim it? Ive been using it wrong for well over a year xD I also didnt know that the closer the target more damage, never knew that until now.

[The_WUUSTER]

You didn't read all the other threads/posts about it?

[WorldBosh]

(29-07-2012 04:22 AM)epicchickengod Wrote:  So i have to carefully aim it? Ive been using it wrong for well over a year xD I also didnt know that the closer the target more damage, never knew that until now.

Not sure if trolling.....

[-=Brenn=-]

IEG is useless at lower lvl's, the radius should also be buffed.

Even soldiers at mid-lvls start using GS now, and it's just sad as a lvl 14 Gunner, you're unable to counter it. I mostly use leg it to get outta there.

[WorldBosh]

(29-07-2012 03:54 PM)-=Brenn=- Wrote:  IEG is useless at lower lvl's, the radius should also be buffed.

Even soldiers at mid-lvls start using GS now, and it's just sad as a lvl 14 Gunner, you're unable to counter it. I mostly use leg it to get outta there.

I still find IEG 1 perfect for taking care of the most threatening grenades .

[Inception.]

IEG5
Legit5
Keg4
FF1
Shield1

winning

[epicchickengod]

(29-07-2012 05:36 AM)WorldBosh Wrote:  

(29-07-2012 04:22 AM)epicchickengod Wrote:  So i have to carefully aim it? Ive been using it wrong for well over a year xD I also didnt know that the closer the target more damage, never knew that until now.

Not sure if trolling.....

Believe it or not, am not trolling. And ya, i only realized it after the keg nerf.

[ZaitoX]

My new gunner ability build on my lvl 27 gunner is:
5/5 IEG
5/5 Leg It
2/5 FF
1/5 HS