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06-06-2012, 04:40 PM | Post: #161
Drew 
(06-06-2012 04:07 PM)dajurgen Wrote:  >> BB changes <<

Might be a little strong (but possible only because of the extra bullets), but some form of "ticks" so BB isn't the bastard 1 bullet commando killer it is, but also more effective against gunners is something I think should happen (BB just doesn't feel strong at all against gunners who can just easily suck up the damage whereas commando are nearly always left nearly dead or dead from 1 bullet).

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06-06-2012, 04:51 PM | Post: #162
jallu87 
bb should be a skill ability. like ps basicly is. as u need to actually hit enemy to deal thedamage.

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06-06-2012, 04:54 PM | Post: #163
protoya 
Soldiers = OP at Supporting
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Really? wtf are you saying?

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06-06-2012, 05:12 PM | Post: #164
abeldabom 
(05-06-2012 08:52 PM)WorldBosh Wrote:  
(05-06-2012 08:49 PM)abeldabom Wrote:  
(05-06-2012 08:37 PM)Drew Wrote:  
(05-06-2012 08:00 PM)BongoChili Wrote:  Good lord, this is exactly the same discussion as 2,5 years ago LOL

Don't worry, there is the other balance thread as well, no wait, it's the same terrible thing lol.

does it matter? dont u love complaining with randoms? i hate it when ppl agree with meBig Grin.

New thoughts about the topic:
-Burning bullets should last for atleast 5 minutes
-Grenades spam should'nt trow multiple grenades, but multiple kegs(gs lvl=keg lvl)
-Soldiers are to slow, they should run faster then mandos
-and get stealth
-and the double amount of health
-and the abiltie to transformer to a tank
-and sixth sense should do damage to all the enemys you see
and disable stealth
-and eehm.... soldier should be 15 foot tal!

dont u dare to agree with me!

I agree.

sigh.....

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06-06-2012, 05:18 PM | Post: #165
Father_Giliam 
(06-06-2012 04:40 PM)Drew Wrote:  
(06-06-2012 04:07 PM)dajurgen Wrote:  >> BB changes <<

Might be a little strong (but possible only because of the extra bullets), but some form of "ticks" so BB isn't the bastard 1 bullet commando killer it is, but also more effective against gunners is something I think should happen (BB just doesn't feel strong at all against gunners who can just easily suck up the damage whereas commando are nearly always left nearly dead or dead from 1 bullet).

Agreed. And they need to make it so you need to actually hit the driver/pilot for it to light.. its annoying being a commando flying and losing nearly all your health on a single pass.

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06-06-2012, 05:32 PM | Post: #166
Shubawks 
I play all classes - I find soldier quite easy.
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06-06-2012, 05:36 PM | Post: #167
tancomarco027 
Just still dont get why they nerfed BS seriously, its not fair :\

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06-06-2012, 05:50 PM | Post: #168
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if you think that snipers are OP now then you should have been here in the good ol days.

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06-06-2012, 05:50 PM | Post: #169
Father_Giliam 
(06-06-2012 05:36 PM)tancomarco027 Wrote:  Just still dont get why they nerfed BS seriously, its not fair :\

Wasnt nerfed. Fixed. It was never meant to be able to insta kill at full health.


(06-06-2012 05:50 PM)the scot Wrote:  if you think that snipers are OP now then you should have been here in the good ol days.

You mean when you could anihlate jeeps?

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06-06-2012, 05:55 PM | Post: #170
Drew 
(06-06-2012 05:50 PM)Father_Giliam Wrote:  
(06-06-2012 05:50 PM)the scot Wrote:  if you think that snipers are OP now then you should have been here in the good ol days.
You mean when you could anihlate jeeps?
Ahh, the days of when not-playing commando took balls of steel.

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06-06-2012, 05:57 PM | Post: #171
Apoplectic 
Commandos are OP at sniping
Gunners are OP at close range
Soldiers are OP because they can knock you to other side of the map into the path of a moving jeep and can heal themselves for free, giving them an effective HP higher than that of a gunner.

Everything is OP, thus everything is balanced.

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06-06-2012, 06:00 PM | Post: #172
spuggy 
Talking about nerfs / buffs / balance in general is just a bad joke at this point on these forums. Abilities in particular hardly see ANY tweaks when they are often the culprits of all the issues. Here's to you PS, BB, and FF you scumbag abilities.

To my knowledge these are the only ability changes that have happened over the 2-3 years this game has been out, feel free to add any I missed:

1) Grenade spam was changed to not be explode on impact and tweaked in general.
2) Heroes of the Fall update (least I think it was this one) brought about Keg going from fire DoT to slow effect. Frenzy fire tweaked and has a heal added.
3) Elixir had a shield added to it? Can't remember if this was on it from the start or added later on.
4) And....troop trap was tweaked once or twice.
5) Oh yeah, and BS was finally fixed / tweaked to not be some stupid "lol insta kill wall smash" move.

There, that's it. That's all the ability tweaks over the past 2-3 years. All 4-5 of them. Want to know how many threads there have been about abilities and balance? Probably hundreds.

For funsies:
Number of weapon tweaks not counting bugs:
1) Sniper damage reduced in a patch for "back-end changes" (ha).
2) Machete was tweaked at some point IIRC.
3) Katana tweaked.
4) Dragon fire tweaked x2.
5) Pirate pistol tweaked.
6) Nade launcher tweaked / debugged?
7) Gunner MGs had accuracy tweaked.
8) One more for me not being able to remember.
9) Another extra, just in case.

So there. In all the 2-3 years there has been about 5 changes max to abilities, and maybe 10 changes (I'm being generous) in terms of weapon changes.

TL;DR: There have been a pitiful amount of balance changes over the years. Don't expect anything to come of this. These threads are becoming an exercise in futility. GL.

Bonus round: Things that countless threads have been made on / discussed regarding balance and yet no change to even see how it would pan out. Not even a PTE build with tweaks to test it in a small environment:
1) MR pistol
2) Knife commando in general
3) Piercing shot / stealth, more so piercing shot.
4) BB.
5) FF healing
6) Gunner Keg slow

TL;DR2: Quit wasting your time having avid discussions regarding balance. They have had plenty of time to test changes, make changes, and balance things out. They don't give a s-hit. There have been more outfits / weapons / reskins released in the past 4-5 months than all the months prior to that combined. They make more money from pushing more virtual items than from balance changes.

Seriously, just find another game and move on.
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06-06-2012, 06:05 PM | Post: #173
eatyourface1 
(05-06-2012 02:52 PM)eatyourface1 Wrote:  Ah yes, now I remember why I stopped coming to the forumns.
Tactics and teamwork ladies.
And keep moving..don't just stand there waiting for another round
Again, how many times do you have to get killed on the taco ladder before you change tactics?
Tactics, teamwork, and movement.
Without it even I can kill you.

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06-06-2012, 06:06 PM | Post: #174
Ionasasf 
Well i got a other profile with lvl 30 and so and i can say u guys are telling true commandos at sniping are OP , soldiers at support and whatever are OP,and gunners are OP cuz they got that guns what have at 150 and so munition and they can move fast with abbibitles and upgrade their gun ,im personally always on commando lvl 27 and it is not so EASY as on my gunner lvl 25 ,UNDERSTAND ..
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06-06-2012, 06:13 PM | Post: #175
Father_Giliam 
(06-06-2012 06:00 PM)spuggy Wrote:  1) Grenade spam was changed to not be explode on impact and tweaked in general.
2) Heroes of the Fall update (least I think it was this one) brought about Keg going from fire DoT to slow effect. Frenzy fire tweaked and has a heal added.
3) Elixir had a shield added to it? Can't remember if this was on it from the start or added later on.
4) And....troop trap was tweaked once or twice.
5) Oh yeah, and BS was finally fixed / tweaked to not be some stupid "lol insta kill wall smash" move.

Elixir also had its speed boosted enough to be slightly faster then Leg-It, and cooldown reduced I believe. There may have been something about duration but I dont remember.

Also, HATE mentioned balance coming for Soldiers and Gunners in the summer, so I would expect some ability tweaks in the near future.

(06-06-2012 05:55 PM)Drew Wrote:  
(06-06-2012 05:50 PM)Father_Giliam Wrote:  
(06-06-2012 05:50 PM)the scot Wrote:  if you think that snipers are OP now then you should have been here in the good ol days.
You mean when you could anihlate jeeps?
Ahh, the days of when not-playing commando took balls of steel.

Funny how things nearly flipped, atleast when it comes to knifing in lvl20+ games.

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06-06-2012, 09:59 PM | Post: #176
The_WUUSTER 
I've been hearing some people talking about nerfing the fast rifle. I agree with the fact that PS 5 + fast rifle = mad OP (kinda funny b/c when I started playing this game, which is right after HotF, almost nobody used the fast rifle since they thought it was useless b/c it can no longer blow up jeeps), but I don't think its the fast rifle itself. Yes, the low recoil and fast RoF are pretty powerful, but have you ever sniped with the fast rifle without PS? It's basically a sub-par LR pistol with only 8 bullets and requires zooming and has recoil. The problem is PS, which inflats the fast rifle's damage to 30-ish for body shots and ~50 for head shots, which is devastating due to its RoF.

About the sniper bug, I'm actually not sure if it has been fixed. Quite a few times I would zoom in and then the game would make me zoom out again even though I didn't roll the mousewheel again (I use mousewheel up for scoping). Esp. annoying when you let off a shot and then you can't finish the target b/c you just zoomed out and your PS has expired.

And ktm87, knifing probably requires the most skill out of any build in this game (at high levels).

(06-06-2012 03:43 PM)Drugie Wrote:  
(06-06-2012 03:36 PM)The_WUUSTER Wrote:  
(06-06-2012 02:55 PM)Drugie Wrote:  
(06-06-2012 02:32 PM)The_WUUSTER Wrote:  Then I'm putting it in.

Oh my...

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You have a twisted mind D:

You said it, not me.

Yeah but it's your fault you had to think like a immature kid and interpret it like that.

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(23-12-2012 06:57 AM)TPangolin Wrote:  I've always enjoyed reading your posts.
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06-06-2012, 10:17 PM | Post: #177
Drugie 
(06-06-2012 09:59 PM)The_WUUSTER Wrote:  
(06-06-2012 03:43 PM)Drugie Wrote:  
(06-06-2012 03:36 PM)The_WUUSTER Wrote:  
(06-06-2012 02:55 PM)Drugie Wrote:  
(06-06-2012 02:32 PM)The_WUUSTER Wrote:  Then I'm putting it in.

Oh my...

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You have a twisted mind D:

You said it, not me.

Yeah but it's your fault you had to think like a immature kid and interpret it like that.

Yeah but you shouldn't be doing things like that at your age. It's ok though, Jurgen disgusted me more.

(06-06-2012 02:32 PM)The_WUUSTER Wrote:  Then I'm putting it in.

What happens in BF:H stays in BF:H

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06-06-2012, 10:18 PM | Post: #178
The_WUUSTER 
(06-06-2012 10:17 PM)Drugie Wrote:  
(06-06-2012 09:59 PM)The_WUUSTER Wrote:  
(06-06-2012 03:43 PM)Drugie Wrote:  
(06-06-2012 03:36 PM)The_WUUSTER Wrote:  
(06-06-2012 02:55 PM)Drugie Wrote:  Oh my...

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You have a twisted mind D:

You said it, not me.

Yeah but it's your fault you had to think like a immature kid and interpret it like that.

Yeah but you shouldn't be doing things like that at your age.

Well, your point is invalid, since that wasn't what I meant in the first place.

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(23-12-2012 06:57 AM)TPangolin Wrote:  I've always enjoyed reading your posts.
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06-06-2012, 10:24 PM | Post: #179
WorldBosh 
(06-06-2012 09:59 PM)The_WUUSTER Wrote:  
(06-06-2012 03:43 PM)Drugie Wrote:  
(06-06-2012 03:36 PM)The_WUUSTER Wrote:  
(06-06-2012 02:55 PM)Drugie Wrote:  
(06-06-2012 02:32 PM)The_WUUSTER Wrote:  Then I'm putting it in.

Oh my...

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You have a twisted mind D:

You said it, not me.

Yeah but it's your fault you had to think like a immature kid and interpret it like that.

Lmfao. Just lmfao.

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06-06-2012, 10:45 PM | Post: #180
eatyourface1 
Do I need to make a circus afro polkadot video refence again?

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