Ranked servers should not be available for individuals to purchase!

[NationalShoulder]

Sorry about the long, boring topic title but this game has one major flaw. We all know what it is... if you guessed abusive admins then here, take a cookie.

Since the open beta release of BF:H individual players, clans and communities have had the opportunity to rent servers. Now server rental itself is a great idea... but NOT for ranked servers! People are willing to pay the 20€+ per month just so that they can stat pad all the way to level 30 with one kill (most likely you know whom I'm talking about) and there are some insane rules on some servers such as "No PP, No Drake's fire" etc... I know that these weapons are for N00bs but EASY shouldn't be selling products that will lead into kicks from server admins. And last but not least: Mando limits

As far as I know the maximum commando limit for a ranked server is 2. It's not shocking that there are people who hate commandos but it's unacceptable that on my main account I get dumped into a server with a "1 Commando per team" limit five times in a row. Also my attachment is very related.

[1slaystation1]

Mando limit, no PP, no DF... I wish all server would run those rules

[-Scheetje!]

There are plenty of servers out there that don't have a mando limit.
Alto, most of them have a limit of 2, indeed.
Regarding the weapon limitations: less than 10% has such a limitation applied to it's autoadmin rules.
I've played at a server once that said the drakes fire was forbidden. Was able to shoot with it w/o being kicked/banned. Just some baked air and false alarm from the server admin.
If your playing on such a server, just search a new one

[Spunky.A.D.]

The problem is the play now button.
Even if you join by bookmarks you cant see the servers average level.
Some kind of server browser that shows games with allowed levels and classes would be nice.
So if you press play now it should show you a variety of servers that are suitable to your class and level.

[Alkaizen]

(11-01-2012 08:02 PM)Scheetje! Wrote:  There are plenty of servers out there that don't have a mando limit.
Alto, most of them have a limit of 2, indeed.
Regarding the weapon limitations: less than 10% has such a limitation applied to it's autoadmin rules.
I've played at a server once that said the drakes fire was forbidden. Was able to shoot with it w/o being kicked/banned. Just some baked air and false alarm from the server admin.
If your playing on such a server, just search a new one

You can disobey the server rules, but if a mod or admin catch you doing it, probaly they will kick you.

[Father_Giliam]

If you know the IP of that server, report it. Its against the rules to completely rule out a class in the limit if its ranked.

[oScAR6O6]

You think companies are going to foot the bill for 1000s of servers?
Go back to your xbox.

[NationalShoulder]

(11-01-2012 08:18 PM)Father_Giliam Wrote:  If you know the IP of that server, report it. Its against the rules to completely rule out a class in the limit if its ranked.

Unfortunately I have no clue what server that was. It didn't have a banner or anything.

(11-01-2012 08:10 PM)Spunky.A.D. Wrote:  The problem is the play now button.
Even if you join by bookmarks you cant see the servers average level.
Some kind of server browser that shows games with allowed levels and classes would be nice.
So if you press play now it should show you a variety of servers that are suitable to your class and level.

It would be a solution, but the devs are too stubborn to add the same server browser here that they had added in BF:P4F

(11-01-2012 08:26 PM)oScAR6O6 Wrote:  You think companies are going to foot the bill for 1000s of servers?
Go back to your xbox.

Do you think that something which is supposedly "ranked" should be allowed for private use since it's clearly abused?

[MindCrazy.]

So, come up with suggestions, instead of only complaining! I agree, people making their own server rules isn't ideal. But, I have no idea how to do it otherwise. Apparently, you don't either, as I don't see any of them.

(11-01-2012 08:33 PM)NationalShoulder Wrote:  It would be a solution, but the devs are too stubborn to add the same server browser here that they had added in BF:P4F

Server browser takes 6 months to implement, as said by a blue. That'd mean we get 6 months of no new content. Question being, is it worth it? For the community: Maybe. For the cash flow: Hell no.

[Tomonor]

That seems like a fair number to me.

[NationalShoulder]

(11-01-2012 08:47 PM)MindCrazy. Wrote:  So, come up with suggestions, instead of only complaining!

"Ranked servers should not be available for individuals to purchase!" That's a suggestion more or less. Plus I know that the server browser takes long to implement. I was one of the ones waiting for it eagerly in BFP4F.

[DrSilberman]

Don't you think there are honest server admins too?
Would you like to play on servers that are not moderated all the time?

[MindCrazy.]

(11-01-2012 09:10 PM)NationalShoulder Wrote:  "Ranked servers should not be available for individuals to purchase!" That's a suggestion more or less.

What I meant was that you would share ideas of what people SHOULD do, not what people shouldn't.

(11-01-2012 09:10 PM)NationalShoulder Wrote:  Plus I know that the server browser takes long to implement. I was one of the ones waiting for it eagerly in BFP4F.

Then you understand it'll ruin the profits of BFH.

[NationalShoulder]

(11-01-2012 09:11 PM)DrSilberman Wrote:  Don't you think there are honest server admins too?
Would you like to play on servers that are not moderated all the time?

Very few. For some reason throughout history people tend to abuse the slightest power they have. Now that I think of it since CB I have only seen 1-4 friendly and honest admins. Kinda sad.

[DrSilberman]

(11-01-2012 09:21 PM)NationalShoulder Wrote:  

(11-01-2012 09:11 PM)DrSilberman Wrote:  Don't you think there are honest server admins too?
Would you like to play on servers that are not moderated all the time?

Very few. For some reason throughout history people tend to abuse the slightest power they have. Now that I think of it since CB I have only seen 1-4 friendly and honest admins. Kinda sad.

Can you describe an honest admin for me? I would like to know which qualifications i need.

[Harlinger]

Speaking on behalf of myself I have to say Harlinger totally disagrees with you.

[oScAR6O6]

(11-01-2012 08:33 PM)NationalShoulder Wrote:  

(11-01-2012 08:18 PM)Father_Giliam Wrote:  If you know the IP of that server, report it. Its against the rules to completely rule out a class in the limit if its ranked.

Unfortunately I have no clue what server that was. It didn't have a banner or anything.

(11-01-2012 08:10 PM)Spunky.A.D. Wrote:  The problem is the play now button.
Even if you join by bookmarks you cant see the servers average level.
Some kind of server browser that shows games with allowed levels and classes would be nice.
So if you press play now it should show you a variety of servers that are suitable to your class and level.

It would be a solution, but the devs are too stubborn to add the same server browser here that they had added in BF:P4F

(11-01-2012 08:26 PM)oScAR6O6 Wrote:  You think companies are going to foot the bill for 1000s of servers?
Go back to your xbox.

Do you think that something which is supposedly "ranked" should be allowed for private use since it's clearly abused?

Again go back to your xbox.
This is PC gaming,this is nothing new,in any FPS game.

[NationalShoulder]

(11-01-2012 10:08 PM)DrSilberman Wrote:  

(11-01-2012 09:21 PM)NationalShoulder Wrote:  

(11-01-2012 09:11 PM)DrSilberman Wrote:  Don't you think there are honest server admins too?
Would you like to play on servers that are not moderated all the time?

Very few. For some reason throughout history people tend to abuse the slightest power they have. Now that I think of it since CB I have only seen 1-4 friendly and honest admins. Kinda sad.

Can you describe an honest admin for me? I would like to know which qualifications i need.

In short:

Any admin who kicks players only for:
- Glitch abuse
- Hacking (with reasonable proof)
- Harassing others
- Constant use of vulgar language (a part of harassing others)

Does not :
- Kick players who are from a country that they don't like (this tends to happen a lot between countries two countries that are hostile to each other)
- Kick players who have good scores
- Threaten players. I have no problem whatsoever with admins who give clear warnings but threatening players is just wrong.
- Kick players for killing them or their friends (this happened to me in a Swedish server once. The idiots didn't know that I could fully understand their conversation).

[The_WUUSTER]

(11-01-2012 08:02 PM)1slaystation1 Wrote:  Mando limit, no PP, no DF... I wish all server would run those rules

Ran into a server yesterday with 2 DF spamming gunners... luckily I was running 4 IEG.

I think there should be a probationary period for admins who wish to rent ranked servers, or some kind of supervision to make sure the admins stay in check, as admins can simply start abusing after that period is over.

[DrSilberman]

(12-01-2012 02:49 PM)NationalShoulder Wrote:  

(11-01-2012 10:08 PM)DrSilberman Wrote:  

(11-01-2012 09:21 PM)NationalShoulder Wrote:  

(11-01-2012 09:11 PM)DrSilberman Wrote:  Don't you think there are honest server admins too?
Would you like to play on servers that are not moderated all the time?

Very few. For some reason throughout history people tend to abuse the slightest power they have. Now that I think of it since CB I have only seen 1-4 friendly and honest admins. Kinda sad.

Can you describe an honest admin for me? I would like to know which qualifications i need.

In short:

Any admin who kicks players only for:
- Glitch abuse
- Hacking (with reasonable proof)
- Harassing others
- Constant use of vulgar language (a part of harassing others)

Does not :
- Kick players who are from a country that they don't like (this tends to happen a lot between countries two countries that are hostile to each other)
- Kick players who have good scores
- Threaten players. I have no problem whatsoever with admins who give clear warnings but threatening players is just wrong.
- Kick players for killing them or their friends (this happened to me in a Swedish server once. The idiots didn't know that I could fully understand their conversation).

Lucky me
I think if you have a better look, you will find more than 4 honest admins