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04-07-2012, 09:18 PM | Post: #621
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(04-07-2012 09:04 PM)=Oblivion=Sliced Wrote:  We're talking mostly about sniping being easy and not knifing, so why using a knife ;p

No but builds that will be used will prob be fast/slow sniper + lr pistol.

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Not a good way to test overal Commando skill though.
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04-07-2012, 09:19 PM | Post: #622
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Tbh with you knife dueling won't let you 2 know who's the better mando wich is the thing you guys want so badly...

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04-07-2012, 09:24 PM | Post: #623
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(04-07-2012 09:18 PM)s0zage Wrote:  
(04-07-2012 09:04 PM)=Oblivion=Sliced Wrote:  We're talking mostly about sniping being easy and not knifing, so why using a knife ;p

No but builds that will be used will prob be fast/slow sniper + lr pistol.

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Not a good way to test overal Commando skill though.
True, but I was talking about sniping mostly (wich they were discussing about). Though if you want to know who's better overal you should either use more different builds or let both of them decide what they wana use.

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04-07-2012, 09:44 PM | Post: #624
Drugie 
(04-07-2012 08:38 PM)darkette Wrote:  but please Drugie. Please expose all my hypocrasy and just general idiocy PLEASE.
little brain

Ok.

(25-06-2012 08:48 PM)darkette Wrote:  
(25-06-2012 08:19 PM)mnjcompagnie Wrote:  IMO camping and sr-sniping are the problem

wtf are you talking about? you dont even have a lvl30 mando or used sniping rifles more then 1 hour and you already making judgements like its a clear fact please refrain from this, in future discussions if you want to have reasonable discussions.

(04-07-2012 08:38 PM)darkette Wrote:  Thus its good a for the general debate/thread that someone who
has a different playstyle and opinion gets his opinion heard and taken seriously without
getting slandered at. And that the thread is focused on constructive feedback and not on rants.

Good job there. Attacking someone for offering their opinion, which you encourage. Mnj did nothing to instigate this response, yet you gave it.

(01-07-2012 02:13 PM)darkette Wrote:  please for the 1000th time differ between OPINION and FACTS, would you please?

(04-07-2012 08:38 PM)darkette Wrote:  gets his opinion heard

So let me get this straight, because in my eyes your stance shifts constantly. You want people to have their opinions heard, so we've posted them. My opinion in that sniping is easy. Then you come out with the first quote. So, we've stated our opinions, then you've came along and thrown them back in our faces. Thanks for that.

(01-07-2012 02:13 PM)darkette Wrote:  95% of the posts on this thread falls under the category of RANTS not on CONSTRUCTIVE FEEDBACK.

You then follow this with a huge rant about how Wuuster is unqualified to speak about commandos since his SPM is lower than yours.

(01-07-2012 02:13 PM)darkette Wrote:  Wuuster SPM is extremely low almost noob-level.

(04-07-2012 08:38 PM)darkette Wrote:  without getting slandered at.

Self explanatory. But then again, this is you, so I better explain it anyway. I'll use as many monosyllabic words as possible too, just so I don't confuse you too much.

Wuu gave his view of sniping. Then you slandered him.

Hopefully you'll manage to fully comprehend those sentences.

(01-07-2012 02:13 PM)darkette Wrote:  3. Or simply that you are a just a big noob mando

(04-07-2012 08:38 PM)darkette Wrote:  without getting slandered at.

Same as above. Actually, I'll explain it one more time, just to be on the safe side.

Wuu gave his view of sniping. Then you slandered him.

It's so simple when you think about it!

(01-07-2012 02:13 PM)darkette Wrote:  Either way you are not playing commando like its meant to be

(04-07-2012 08:38 PM)darkette Wrote:  Thus its good a for the general debate/thread that someone who
has a different playstyle

So now you're saying that you want to have the input from people with different playstyles, yet Wuuster offers his view (from a different playstyle,) and you say he is playing the class wrong.

What the hell goes through your head when you smash your face off the keyboard to write this nonsense?

(01-07-2012 02:13 PM)darkette Wrote:  How on earth can you claim sniping is easy, when your stats page resembles like a complete noob like all the other mandos in this thread.

(04-07-2012 08:38 PM)darkette Wrote:  without getting slandered at.

Good one, slander all of the other commandos in this thread why don't you.

(04-07-2012 07:45 PM)darkette Wrote:  I never claimed to be pro.

(01-07-2012 02:13 PM)darkette Wrote:  But obviously i have no idea my 13k+ kills counts for nothing while your supposed theory or some frags seen in a video weighs alot more the my combined experience.

No, it's just heavily implied by the sarcastic tone that you write in. Though, to be fair, I'm not sure if you even know what sarcasm is, let alone possess the ability to write sarcastically, so I might let you off with this one.

(04-07-2012 07:45 PM)darkette Wrote:  And you truly are a noob commando imo.

We've been through this before I think. Hmm, yes, at least 4 times so far actually.

(04-07-2012 07:45 PM)darkette Wrote:  Show me someone who has used the fast rifle more effective then me.

(04-07-2012 07:45 PM)darkette Wrote:  I never claimed to be pro.

Ok. You're not pro, you're just the best at using a weapon.

(04-07-2012 08:38 PM)darkette Wrote:  I put some effort to come up with a funny line Wink

Yes, I could tell it took quite a monumental effort on your behalf.

(04-07-2012 08:38 PM)darkette Wrote:  I dont claim to be the best or very good no seriously you got the wrong idea.

(04-07-2012 07:45 PM)darkette Wrote:  Show me someone who has used the fast rifle more effective then me.

Ok.

(04-07-2012 08:38 PM)darkette Wrote:  my post is not directed at you jallu87 you are a decent guy Smile

(01-07-2012 02:13 PM)darkette Wrote:  How on earth can you claim sniping is easy, when your stats page resembles like a complete noob like all the other mandos in this thread.

(01-07-2012 02:13 PM)darkette Wrote:  all

Such a simple word, yet you do not even know it's meaning. Pity.

(04-07-2012 08:38 PM)darkette Wrote:  little brain

Corparative fanboy much? Actually, I take that back. I doubt he'd like to be associated with you to be honest.

Oh, by the way, I've studied Psychology for a few years now, and I'd like to let you in on a little "inside knowledge" (God knows you need some more of the latter). Recent studies have found no correlation between brain size and IQ. If you want to learn more try reading some work by Denis H. Stott.

Oh, and try to find your own insults next time.

(04-07-2012 08:38 PM)darkette Wrote:  ...how you can live your life in a normal way when you clearly show signs of limited self-dependent thinking.

Please learn to capitalise the start of your sentences before you talk about intelligence.

These were all taken from your last... I think it was 4 posts, I'm not sure. But... yeah.

Just stop. Please. Unless you're actually going to respond to what I wrote earlier.

(06-06-2012 02:32 PM)The_WUUSTER Wrote:  Then I'm putting it in.

What happens in BF:H stays in BF:H

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04-07-2012, 09:47 PM | Post: #625
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^best, you took your time didn't you? Tongue

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04-07-2012, 09:50 PM | Post: #626
Drugie 
(04-07-2012 09:47 PM)=Oblivion=Sliced Wrote:  ^best, you took your time didn't you? Tongue

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It didn't take that long. About 15 minutes (including a power cut).

(06-06-2012 02:32 PM)The_WUUSTER Wrote:  Then I'm putting it in.

What happens in BF:H stays in BF:H

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04-07-2012, 09:52 PM | Post: #627
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(04-07-2012 09:50 PM)Drugie Wrote:  
(04-07-2012 09:47 PM)=Oblivion=Sliced Wrote:  ^best, you took your time didn't you? Tongue

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It didn't take that long. About 15 minutes (including a power cut).

I still like it, don't think he would have thaught you would do it Tongue

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04-07-2012, 10:12 PM | Post: #628
darkette
(04-07-2012 09:44 PM)Drugie Wrote:  
(04-07-2012 08:38 PM)darkette Wrote:  but please Drugie. Please expose all my hypocrasy and just general idiocy PLEASE.
little brain

Ok.

(25-06-2012 08:48 PM)darkette Wrote:  
(25-06-2012 08:19 PM)mnjcompagnie Wrote:  IMO camping and sr-sniping are the problem

wtf are you talking about? you dont even have a lvl30 mando or used sniping rifles more then 1 hour and you already making judgements like its a clear fact please refrain from this, in future discussions if you want to have reasonable discussions.

(04-07-2012 08:38 PM)darkette Wrote:  Thus its good a for the general debate/thread that someone who
has a different playstyle and opinion gets his opinion heard and taken seriously without
getting slandered at. And that the thread is focused on constructive feedback and not on rants.

Good job there. Attacking someone for offering their opinion, which you encourage. Mnj did nothing to instigate this response, yet you gave it.

(01-07-2012 02:13 PM)darkette Wrote:  please for the 1000th time differ between OPINION and FACTS, would you please?

(04-07-2012 08:38 PM)darkette Wrote:  gets his opinion heard

So let me get this straight, because in my eyes your stance shifts constantly. You want people to have their opinions heard, so we've posted them. My opinion in that sniping is easy. Then you come out with the first quote. So, we've stated our opinions, then you've came along and thrown them back in our faces. Thanks for that.

(01-07-2012 02:13 PM)darkette Wrote:  95% of the posts on this thread falls under the category of RANTS not on CONSTRUCTIVE FEEDBACK.

You then follow this with a huge rant about how Wuuster is unqualified to speak about commandos since his SPM is lower than yours.

(01-07-2012 02:13 PM)darkette Wrote:  Wuuster SPM is extremely low almost noob-level.

(04-07-2012 08:38 PM)darkette Wrote:  without getting slandered at.

Self explanatory. But then again, this is you, so I better explain it anyway. I'll use as many monosyllabic words as possible too, just so I don't confuse you too much.

Wuu gave his view of sniping. Then you slandered him.

Hopefully you'll manage to fully comprehend those sentences.

(01-07-2012 02:13 PM)darkette Wrote:  3. Or simply that you are a just a big noob mando

(04-07-2012 08:38 PM)darkette Wrote:  without getting slandered at.

Same as above. Actually, I'll explain it one more time, just to be on the safe side.

Wuu gave his view of sniping. Then you slandered him.

It's so simple when you think about it!

(01-07-2012 02:13 PM)darkette Wrote:  Either way you are not playing commando like its meant to be

(04-07-2012 08:38 PM)darkette Wrote:  Thus its good a for the general debate/thread that someone who
has a different playstyle

So now you're saying that you want to have the input from people with different playstyles, yet Wuuster offers his view (from a different playstyle,) and you say he is playing the class wrong.

What the hell goes through your head when you smash your face off the keyboard to write this nonsense?

(01-07-2012 02:13 PM)darkette Wrote:  How on earth can you claim sniping is easy, when your stats page resembles like a complete noob like all the other mandos in this thread.

(04-07-2012 08:38 PM)darkette Wrote:  without getting slandered at.

Good one, slander all of the other commandos in this thread why don't you.

(04-07-2012 07:45 PM)darkette Wrote:  I never claimed to be pro.

(01-07-2012 02:13 PM)darkette Wrote:  But obviously i have no idea my 13k+ kills counts for nothing while your supposed theory or some frags seen in a video weighs alot more the my combined experience.

No, it's just heavily implied by the sarcastic tone that you write in. Though, to be fair, I'm not sure if you even know what sarcasm is, let alone possess the ability to write sarcastically, so I might let you off with this one.

(04-07-2012 07:45 PM)darkette Wrote:  And you truly are a noob commando imo.

We've been through this before I think. Hmm, yes, at least 4 times so far actually.

(04-07-2012 07:45 PM)darkette Wrote:  Show me someone who has used the fast rifle more effective then me.

(04-07-2012 07:45 PM)darkette Wrote:  I never claimed to be pro.

Ok. You're not pro, you're just the best at using a weapon.

(04-07-2012 08:38 PM)darkette Wrote:  I put some effort to come up with a funny line Wink

Yes, I could tell it took quite a monumental effort on your behalf.

(04-07-2012 08:38 PM)darkette Wrote:  I dont claim to be the best or very good no seriously you got the wrong idea.

(04-07-2012 07:45 PM)darkette Wrote:  Show me someone who has used the fast rifle more effective then me.

Ok.

(04-07-2012 08:38 PM)darkette Wrote:  my post is not directed at you jallu87 you are a decent guy Smile

(01-07-2012 02:13 PM)darkette Wrote:  How on earth can you claim sniping is easy, when your stats page resembles like a complete noob like all the other mandos in this thread.

(01-07-2012 02:13 PM)darkette Wrote:  all

Such a simple word, yet you do not even know it's meaning. Pity.

(04-07-2012 08:38 PM)darkette Wrote:  little brain

Corparative fanboy much? Actually, I take that back. I doubt he'd like to be associated with you to be honest.

Oh, by the way, I've studied Psychology for a few years now, and I'd like to let you in on a little "inside knowledge" (God knows you need some more of the latter). Recent studies have found no correlation between brain size and IQ. If you want to learn more try reading some work by Denis H. Stott.

Oh, and try to find your own insults next time.

(04-07-2012 08:38 PM)darkette Wrote:  ...how you can live your life in a normal way when you clearly show signs of limited self-dependent thinking.

Please learn to capitalise the start of your sentences before you talk about intelligence.

These were all taken from your last... I think it was 4 posts, I'm not sure. But... yeah.

Just stop. Please. Unless you're actually going to respond to what I wrote earlier.

I will let my posts speak for themselves. Selectively cutting out part of my posts. Or taking texts out of its context. Thats the only way you will manage to put my writings in a bad perspective. I expected alot more from you Drugie. Well done spending 15minutes of your timing copy&pasting&cutting my posts to suit your agenda, im not going spend as much time on you since your not worth it.

I welcome everyones opinion but not rants. In my first quote i clearly show why. But as evident from earlier arguments with you whatever i say is futile. Its like talking to a bullied 12year old . Your more interested in claiming back your honour (that i so gratefully took) then staying on topic and discussing whats important.
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04-07-2012, 10:26 PM | Post: #629
Drugie 
Lol, it's not you I'm trying to prove a point to. It's getting everyone else to see what a fool you are. Looking at Oblivion's response, I think it's working.

(06-06-2012 02:32 PM)The_WUUSTER Wrote:  Then I'm putting it in.

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04-07-2012, 10:30 PM | Post: #630
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(04-07-2012 10:26 PM)Drugie Wrote:  Lol, it's not you I'm trying to prove a point to. It's getting everyone else to see what a fool you are. Looking at Oblivion's response, I think it's working.

I was already thinking the same, but I'm not into discussing such a thing atm Tongue

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05-07-2012, 11:55 AM | Post: #631
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Hi, any comments about Panzerhunter/ Badboy? I thinking to buy it, but I need some help ^^ Thnx in advance. ^^

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05-07-2012, 12:17 PM | Post: #632
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I still think that the fast rifle is a skilless weapon to use.

**** this game, that is all.
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05-07-2012, 12:44 PM | Post: #633
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OK enough with personal flame wars and trolling, you guys are not even mature enough to know when
someone is serious or not...and when someone is just trolling for the lulz...

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To put some things on a historical perspective and to shed light on the issue of snipers being OP.
They have always been OP (skilled ones) in battlefield games, in Battlefield 2, Battlefield Bad Company 2 and in Battlefield 3.
The only issue is that sniper is the most rewarding weapon when you have mastered it, and thats what people
have issue with. You cant even come close to being as lethal with sniper as if you have mastered cheeser, LRP, RGP
and SMG. To some extent its even game-breaking and ruins the fun for some people. Thats what people think is unfair.






aggressive recon BF3 (aggressive sniper)






aggressive recon BFBC2 (aggressive sniper)






Aggresive recon BF2 (aggressive sniper)

You can argue all you want wether this requires kills or not. But the fact remains sniping has always been the most rewarding weapon in Battlefield games. I dont think Fast or Slow rifle will change much if the Devs wants to stay true to its origins. But you just have to accept it. Snipers rule the battlefield even without being able to NoScope or 1 shot kill in this game. I have made my contribution to this thread. If you think iam an idiot or dont know what iam talking about then so be it. If you have any arguments or want to insult please take it via PM and not here. Thanks.
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05-07-2012, 01:07 PM | Post: #634
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best thing of all is, when someone is talking awesome all the time, is serious about it but doenst know that hes actually taking braindead stuff. and when you tell him that hes talking bull excrements, he pretends to be trolling

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05-07-2012, 01:08 PM | Post: #635
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Fast rifle with piercing shot is too powerful :l

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05-07-2012, 02:55 PM | Post: #636
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I really wouldnt consider this game in the bf series cause the gameplay is far different. Even if easy forces me to think so.

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05-07-2012, 03:36 PM | Post: #637
Drugie 
(05-07-2012 01:07 PM)DaveDaDon Wrote:  best thing of all is, when someone is talking not so good all the time, is serious about it but doenst know that hes actually taking braindead stuff. and when you tell him that hes talking bull excrements, he pretends to be trolling

I know. It's wonderful.

"Oh no, he's making me took like a complete idiot"

"IT'S OK, I'M JUST TROLLIN' YOU ALL!"

(06-06-2012 02:32 PM)The_WUUSTER Wrote:  Then I'm putting it in.

What happens in BF:H stays in BF:H

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05-07-2012, 05:23 PM | Post: #638
Zaged 
(05-07-2012 02:55 PM)epicchickengod Wrote:  I really wouldnt consider this game in the bf series cause the gameplay is far different. Even if easy forces me to think so.

Yeah I kind of agree on this.

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06-07-2012, 01:38 AM | Post: #639
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(05-07-2012 02:55 PM)epicchickengod Wrote:  I really wouldnt consider this game in the bf series cause the gameplay is far different. Even if easy forces me to think so.

Yeah, when people hate vehicle maps more than infantry.

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10-07-2012, 04:03 PM | Post: #640
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mando is the sick one to fucking kick ass with

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