Kicked for using Pirate Pistol

[Firebaall]

Been a few weeks.

Has Vitalbullet actually been asked to clarify this? I didn't receive an answer to my PM on the matter either.

This game is starting to look like the house with the lights on, but nobody home.

I might also add, that I've closed down my west coast server that's been running for over a year. In part because of how the EA reps here don't bother to address important issues.

[Moke]

(10-10-2011 08:25 PM)Firebaall Wrote:  Has Vitalbullet actually been asked to clarify this?

I, for one, have voiced that the rules are not 100% clear. Before and after the edit.

(10-10-2011 08:25 PM)Firebaall Wrote:  I didn't receive an answer to my PM on the matter either.

They get alot, try sending it again

[Firebaall]

(10-10-2011 08:38 PM)Moke Wrote:  I, for one, have voiced that the rules are not 100% clear. Before and after the edit.

They get alot, try sending it again

Nice to know they don't have the time of day for you either.

I'm not sending the PM again. I sent it to multiple recipients (Thatto,Shadeshooter, VitalBullet, and Goodman). If not a single one of them has the time or capacity to address policy and rule issues, I don't have time for another PM to be ignored.

If I elect to pursue this, I'll be contacting EA customer support directly. That way the issue is documented, and people that should be working for this game are accountable.

[StupidGranny]

Well. just got kicked out of OG's VV. Reason PP. (Wish i was perma'd from it but oh well.)
If the rules are not 100% clear i want that fixed right now so we can get over this freaking bs.

[StupidusX]

They should just ban the PP from the game. It's a sick joke of a weapon and duck all those who use it.

[DeltaForce00]

[grizzle699]

Look if its such a grey area let the overpowered weapons in then kick for something else like ignoring server rules or high ping even bad breath.

REgards grizzle

ps the bad breath was a joke

[Firebaall]

(10-10-2011 08:38 PM)Moke Wrote:  

(10-10-2011 08:25 PM)Firebaall Wrote:  Has Vitalbullet actually been asked to clarify this?

I, for one, have voiced that the rules are not 100% clear. Before and after the edit.

You "voicing" that the rules aren't 100% clear isn't the same as actually asking him to clarify them. I'd like to know at what point this issue is not getting serviced at.

So I'll ask this one more time, has Vitalbullet actually been asked to clarify this by you? The reason I ask, is the first clarification by VB was made in less than 24 hours, when the CMs here misinterpreted the rules.

Which I might add, were upheld. The CMs were wrong.

To be fair to the players, I ask who isn't addressing this issue? I'd like to get this issue resolved once and for all.

[GBeasty]

I'm perfectly fine with this.

[StupidGranny]

With the new rules or old?

[GBeasty]

For PP kick :/

[DopeMuch?]

Why is PP even allowed in the game? It's an OP weapon. Why not just take it out of the game from now on? I mean if you're not gonna allow server owners to ban weapons then Dual LR shotguns are gonna be back. It's pretty much like the tonic thing....

[Mrs.Murder]

(12-10-2011 10:06 PM)DopeMuch? Wrote:  Why is PP even allowed in the game? It's an OP weapon. Why not just take it out of the game from now on? I mean if you're not gonna allow server owners to ban weapons then Dual LR shotguns are gonna be back. It's pretty much like the tonic thing....

First off: WAH WAH WAH.
Second: No. The dual LR shotgun thing is called exploiting in order to increase rate of fire - and this is still a valid reason for kick.

We need a clear answer on this. I don't care what other servers do, since I stick to a few (good) servers that don't have silly rules because admin can't take the heat (and thus should get out of the kitchen rather than banning knives on his/her server) - but it's a matter of principle, and clearly this issue needs a clarification.


Firebaall, I'm with you 100% on this. In the meantime suggest you join the servers in my signature - they're great servers without silly rules.

[Notyou]

(13-10-2011 10:54 AM)Mrs.Murder Wrote:  
The dual LR shotgun thing is called exploiting in order to increase rate of fire - and this is still a valid reason for kick.

Yeah but what when you're not switching too fast and you're actually not exploiting?
To do that you just have to make sure each single SG fires at least with 1 second between 2 hits.

1st SG fire @ 0:0
2nd SG fire @ 0:5 (or more)
1st SG fire @ 1:0 (or more)
...

So players who actually don't exploit, are still not allowed to play there.

[Moke]

(12-10-2011 05:12 PM)Firebaall Wrote:  when the CMs here misinterpreted the rules.

Which I might add, were upheld. The CMs were wrong.

as you said

(22-09-2011 05:12 PM)Firebaall Wrote:  I'd expect one more revision to stamp out the wiggle room though.

when theres "wiggle room" theres room for interpretation of the rules, when theres room for interpretations, you cant really judge who was right or wrong... its still your opinion and others might differ.

(12-10-2011 05:12 PM)Firebaall Wrote:  I ask who isn't addressing this issue?

Me

(13-10-2011 01:40 PM)Notyou Wrote:  

(13-10-2011 10:54 AM)Mrs.Murder Wrote:  
The dual LR shotgun thing is called exploiting in order to increase rate of fire - and this is still a valid reason for kick.

Yeah but what when you're not switching too fast and you're actually not exploiting?
To do that you just have to make sure each single SG fires at least with 1 second between 2 hits.

1st SG fire @ 0:0
2nd SG fire @ 0:5 (or more)
1st SG fire @ 1:0 (or more)
...

So players who actually don't exploit, are still not allowed to play there.

As I read the rules. the wording is "exploitable", which would indicate that using them is not an exploit in itself, but they can be exploited.

This indicates to me, that serveradmins have the possibillity to kick users of the weapon if they suspect "foul play", with out having to record evidence (which i suspect in this case would be close to impossible, but cant say.. I have, to my knowledge, never encountered this exploit)

[Firebaall]

Moke, you still aren't answering my question.

Have you asked Vitalbullet to clarify this, his last edit? Yes or No.

[DeltaForce00]

(13-10-2011 07:52 PM)Firebaall Wrote:  Moke, you still aren't answering my question.

Have you asked Vitalbullet to clarify this, his last edit? Yes or No.

+1

Stop dodging. Answer the question.

[Firebaall]

I sent VB a PM asking if he's interested in dealing with this issue.

I hate to think I'm wasting my time barking up the wrong tree.

[M1k3ol]

have you guys thought that "kicking for noobbashing" falls in the same category?

noobbashing is not against the rules, even if it's frowned upon by the community, and it's NOT classified as statpadding either officially (inb4theonesthatallegedittobe)


hmm, some food for thought...

[Mrs.DarthPedro]

do you use PP ?