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20-11-2010, 12:24 PM | Post: #1
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Pros and Cons of Uber Weapons


This guide will show you the pros and cons of the Tier 2 weapons (a.k.a. Ubers/Supers) in comparison with the appropiate normal version* so you can better decide whether it is necessary to buy a Tier 2 weapon or not.

*Stylish, Dapper, Bad Company 2 and Medal Of Honor weapons aren't listed, as their stats are same with the normal (Stylish/Dapper) or Tier 2 (Bad Company 2/Medal Of Honor) weapons. Those weapons are only reskins of their appropiate version in some cases with different sound.

Explanation of the colors:
Green: This does indicate an advantage of the Tier 2 gun in comparison with the normal version (like more damage or a bigger magazine size).
Orange: This does indicate an audio/visual difference of the Tier 2 gun in comparison with the normal version (like different look of the gun).
Red: This does indicate an disadvantage of the Tier 2 gun in comparison with the normal version (generally the higher price).



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Guns






Knives



Konrad's (Uber) Knife
Royal (Super) Knife

-33% increased hit range
-Different look
-Hero does stab differently with the Tier 2 version

-Does cost 560 BF


Rifles



The (Uber) Groundbreaker
Roderick (Super) Rifle
The (Uber) Gourmet
Oscar's (Super) Farshot
Stefan's (Uber) Sharpshooter
Pipsqueak's (Super) Popper

-Long range is +30 m instead of 50 m
-33% more ammo (= 2 more shots)
-33% higher critical hit chance (= 0.08% in total)
-Less recoil

-Different look
-286% higher price (= 415 BF)
-Long range is +30 m instead of 50 m
-25% more ammo (= 2 more shots)

-Different look
-Does cost 560 BF

-Long range is +30 m instead of 50 m
-40% more ammo (= 2 more shots)
-Less recoil

-Different look
-Different sound

-286% higher price (= 415 BF)
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20-11-2010, 12:25 PM | Post: #2
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Pistols



Florenz' (Uber) Flurry
Garreth (Super) Custom
Ludwig's (Uber) Loaded
Carl's (Super) Cold Comfort
Gerhart's (Uber) Greatest
Harry's (Super) Hand Cannon
-25% more ammo (= 3 more shots / 1 burst)
-225% higher critical hit chance (= 0.13% in total)

-Different look
-286% higher price (= 415 BF)
-50% more ammo (= 3 more shots)
-333% higher critical hit chance (= 0.13% in total)

-Different look
-286% higher price (= 415 BF)

-37,5% more ammo (= 3 more shots)
-333% higher critical hit chance (= 0.13% in total)

-Different look
-Different sound (only Royal version)

-286% higher price (= 415 BF)


SMGs



Rudolf's (Uber) Rescue
Tommy's (Super) Typewriter
The (Uber) Kommandant
Charlie's (Super) Chopper
The (Uber) Wacky Machinegun
Greg's (Super) Greasy Gun

-12,5% more ammo (= 5 more shots)
-60% higher critical hit chance (= 0.04% in total)

-Different look
-Different sound

-25% less critical hit damage
-286% higher price (= 415 BF)
-17% more ammo (= 5 more shots)
-60% higher critical hit chance (= 0.04% in total)

-Different look
-25% less critical hit damage
-Does cost 560 BF
-20% more ammo (= 5 more shots)
-300% higher critical hit chance (= 0.1% in total)

-Different look
-25% less critical hit damage
-286% higher price (= 415 BF)


Shotguns



Friedrich's (Uber) Fly Swatter
Stewart's (Super) Shotty
Steiner's (Uber) Shotgun
Hubble's (Super) Double Trouble
Uwe's (Uber) Owerpowered
(Super) Slugger

-25% more ammo (= 3 more shots)
-57% higher critical hit chance (= 0.07% in total)

-Different look
-Different sound
-Hero does fire in a different way

-286% higher price (= 415 BF)
-30% more ammo (= 3 more shots)
-60% higher critical hit chance (= 0.08% in total)

-Different look
-Hero does fire in a different way

-Does cost 560 BF
-37,5% more ammo (= 3 more shots)
-300% higher critical hit chance (= 0.2% in total)

-Different look
-Hero does fire in a different way

-286% higher price (= 415 BF)


MGs



The (Uber) Backscratcher
The (Super) Cheeser
Rudi's (Uber) Ridiculous
Maxwell's (Super) Machinegun
Wolfgang's (Uber) Wonderful
Bernie's (Super) Bone Chewer

-140% higher critical hit chance (= 0.06% in total)

-Different look
-286% higher price (= 415 BF)

-133% higher critical hit chance (= 0.07% in total)

-Different look
-Does cost 560 BF

-266% higher critical hit chance (= 0.08% in total)

-Different look
-286% higher price (= 415 BF)


RPGs



Faust's (Uber) Panzerfist
(Super) Tank Buster

-Does have critical damage
-Different look
-Different sound

-286% higher price (= 415 BF)
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20-11-2010, 12:26 PM | Post: #3
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Changelog


20/11/2010 - Created topic
20/11/2010 - Moved to correct subforum. Thanks CrySpy!
03/12/2010 - Edited pros of the rifles
03/12/2010 - Changed title of this topic
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20-11-2010, 12:27 PM | Post: #4
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Changes may occur. All informations are supplied without liability. If found any grammaticular or statistical mistakes, don't hesitate to inform me. Source: Weapons guide by M1k3ol


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20-11-2010, 12:31 PM | Post: #5
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Great to know Smile

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20-11-2010, 12:34 PM | Post: #6
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Nice guide Tongue

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20-11-2010, 12:34 PM | Post: #7
Dr.Corny 
where did you get 415 bf from? its 560.....isnt?
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20-11-2010, 12:40 PM | Post: #8
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Great

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20-11-2010, 12:41 PM | Post: #9
B.Randt-Stiffter 
(20-11-2010 12:34 PM)Dr.Corny Wrote:  where did you get 415 bf from? its 560.....isnt?

560-145=415 ;]

Thanks for the feedback, guys! :]

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20-11-2010, 12:50 PM | Post: #10
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Don't we already have a guide on all weapons somewhere?

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20-11-2010, 12:54 PM | Post: #11
B.Randt-Stiffter 
(20-11-2010 12:50 PM)HeXor Wrote:  Don't we already have a guide on all weapons somewhere?

But this one is to show off the difference between Normal and Uber guns.
The weapons guide by M1k3ol is to show the stats of every single gun, where it's not so easy to see the differences because there are many other informations ;]

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20-11-2010, 12:59 PM | Post: #12
HeXor 
(20-11-2010 12:54 PM)B.Randt-Stiffter Wrote:  
(20-11-2010 12:50 PM)HeXor Wrote:  Don't we already have a guide on all weapons somewhere?

But this one is to show off the difference between Normal and Uber guns.
The weapons guide by M1k3ol is to show the stats of every single gun, where it's not so easy to see the differences because there are many other informations ;]

Put 'em next to eachother and you can see it all

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20-11-2010, 01:01 PM | Post: #13
B.Randt-Stiffter 
(20-11-2010 12:59 PM)HeXor Wrote:  Put 'em next to eachother and you can see it all

This is just for making the life of the newcomers easier, 'kay?

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20-11-2010, 01:17 PM | Post: #14
Xunmato 
don't you mean +33% hit range of the uber/super knifes? it's longer, not shorter
and your saying that all the ubers have - something percent, that doesn't make any sense, as far as i can see, ubers have 5 more shots, not a certain percent less, this guide can't be used properly

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20-11-2010, 01:23 PM | Post: #15
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Moved. Smile

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20-11-2010, 01:48 PM | Post: #16
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Nice guide. Smile

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20-11-2010, 04:18 PM | Post: #17
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(20-11-2010 12:34 PM)Dr.Corny Wrote:  where did you get 415 bf from? its 560.....isnt?

i think he means like the 145 bf for normal+415 to get 560

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20-11-2010, 09:37 PM | Post: #18
1slaystation1 
Nice guide for newcomers!
Could you add part where you list all weapon that have same stats?

For example:
Stefan's Uber Sharpshooter = SVD = Golden SVD..... and so on

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20-11-2010, 09:40 PM | Post: #19
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Nice. I always wondered about some of this.

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20-11-2010, 10:20 PM | Post: #20
B.Randt-Stiffter 
(20-11-2010 01:23 PM)CrySpy Wrote:  Moved. Smile

Thanks very much!

(20-11-2010 09:37 PM)1slaystation1 Wrote:  Nice guide for newcomers!
Could you add part where you list all weapon that have same stats?

For example:
Stefan's Uber Sharpshooter = SVD = Golden SVD..... and so on

Well I mentioned in the first post that stylish/dappers are equal to the normals and the BC2/MoH to the ubers, but I may consider to add another little section to make things more clearly.

Glad if my 'guide' gave you information you wanted! ;]


(20-11-2010 01:17 PM)Xunmato Wrote:  don't you mean +33% hit range of the uber/super knifes? it's longer, not shorter
and your saying that all the ubers have - something percent, that doesn't make any sense, as far as i can see, ubers have 5 more shots, not a certain percent less, this guide can't be used properly

Huh, what's wrong with the knifes? o.o
It actually does make sense, but I've also added what those percents reflect, like "40% more ammo (= 2 more shots)".
Also percentages are important, especially for critical hit chances, as they're really low, and very minor differences can change much ;]
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