[Nerf] Gunners (Updated! Less Nerf!)

[MeinCookie95]

Bambug or whatever your name is... your highest character is 11. In other words, "YOU ARE A NOOB! YOU DO NOT HAVE ENOUGH EXPERIENCE TO SAY ANYTHING ABOUT ANYTHING! GO AWAY!"

Alright... that said.

Yeah, I do think that gunners are kinda over-powered. Especially when the start base raping the spawn on infantry maps in a mob. It isn't so bad for commandos, but the soldiers and heroes without stealth really cop it. There is nothing a commando or soldier can do about the mobs. I feel that the "best" or most successful team should have an even ratio of soldiers, gunners and commandos... not just gunner spam or the most part gunners.

Also, the only way to succeed in knifing a lone gunner is to wait until they've already used Leg It... I have been experimenting with Level 3 Elixir and it doesn't even improve success much. Unless they are distracted or have already used it a gunner with the Cheser will cut anything up.

[Bansheebot]

(17-07-2010 02:27 PM)MeinCookie95 Wrote:  Also, the only way to succeed in knifing a lone gunner is to wait until they've already used Leg It... I have been experimenting with Level 3 Elixir and it doesn't even improve success much.

Did you know leg-it actually goes just a little bit faster then elixir?

[Falkhorn]

i never really did well with my royal gunner, 5/22 with him, never used him since 2nd Aug 2009, but i seem to improve with my nat gunner, but im best as a soldier, BS + BB + KEEP FIRING = dead gunner ready for a t-bag

[SufferBaron]

(17-07-2010 01:26 PM)MuDvAyN3 Wrote:  I think your a noob. Not because of your complaining of gunner but because I looked at your stats. Not impressive.

Yeah? Well I think your a noob too. Because you come into a suggestion, don't mention the suggestion, and insult people who have already stated the reason for their bad stats.

(17-07-2010 01:26 PM)MuDvAyN3 Wrote:  Not impressive.

[Bambrugge]

(17-07-2010 05:06 PM)SufferBaron Wrote:  

(17-07-2010 01:26 PM)MuDvAyN3 Wrote:  I think your a noob. Not because of your complaining of gunner but because I looked at your stats. Not impressive.

Yeah? Well I think your a noob too. Because you come into a suggestion, don't mention the suggestion, and insult people who have already stated the reason for their bad stats.

(17-07-2010 01:26 PM)MuDvAyN3 Wrote:  Not impressive.

he's just saying the problem is you not the gunners

[SufferBaron]

I'm fine with a single gunner, I can beat them no problem. I'm talking about mobs of gunners, they shouldn't be able to beat a mob of mixed classes. Because otherwise there is no point in playing BFH as anything other than a gunnner, this game is designed for team-play to win, but Gunners beat everything in teamplay.

[Bambrugge]

(17-07-2010 05:48 PM)SufferBaron Wrote:  I'm fine with a single gunner, I can beat them no problem. I'm talking about mobs of gunners, they shouldn't be able to beat a mob of mixed classes. Because otherwise there is no point in playing BFH as anything other than a gunnner, this game is designed for team-play to win, but Gunners beat everything in teamplay.

if you team-play too there is still no problem why they can't teamplay lol

[FlaSh[b]aCk]

You should join because I think your grammer is exeptional. ^^,

[FlaSh[b]aCk]

(17-07-2010 03:40 PM)Falkhorn Wrote:  i never really did well with my royal gunner, 5/22 with him, never used him since 2nd Aug 2009, but i seem to improve with my nat gunner, but im best as a soldier, BS + BB + KEEP FIRING = dead gunner ready for a t-bag

T-bagging + kilt = ...

[Bambrugge]

(17-07-2010 02:27 PM)MeinCookie95 Wrote:  Bambug or whatever your name is... your highest character is 11. In other words, "YOU ARE A NOOB! YOU DO NOT HAVE ENOUGH EXPERIENCE TO SAY ANYTHING ABOUT ANYTHING! GO AWAY!"

Alright... that said.

Yeah, I do think that gunners are kinda over-powered. Especially when the start base raping the spawn on infantry maps in a mob. It isn't so bad for commandos, but the soldiers and heroes without stealth really cop it. There is nothing a commando or soldier can do about the mobs. I feel that the "best" or most successful team should have an even ratio of soldiers, gunners and commandos... not just gunner spam or the most part gunners.

Also, the only way to succeed in knifing a lone gunner is to wait until they've already used Leg It... I have been experimenting with Level 3 Elixir and it doesn't even improve success much. Unless they are distracted or have already used it a gunner with the Cheser will cut anything up.

ye lol but i can get a positive kd you only can with your best and it isn't good so you shut up

[SufferBaron]

Seriously Bambrugge, you're the scum of BFH. Your not listening, I can teamplay. But when they teamplay, they're overpowered. Infinite Ultra-speed, Huge health, No chance at taking them. Shutup. Go away. No-one wants you here.

And as for Flash[b]ack... are you making these mistakes in you're grammar on purpose?

[Bambrugge]

(17-07-2010 06:04 PM)SufferBaron Wrote:  Seriously Bambrugge, you're the scum of BFH. Your not listening, I can teamplay. But when they teamplay, they're overpowered. Infinite Ultra-speed, Huge health, No chance at taking them. Shutup. Go away. No-one wants you here.

And as for Flash[b]ack... are you making these mistakes in you're grammar on purpose?

ok:everybody is saying you can beat a gunner 1vs1 right?
so if they are with 3 and you are with 3 or more you can beat them too so what's the problem?
I'm like ten levels lower then you and you can't beat a gunner while i can't? you see:xp is everything

[Bansheebot]

(17-07-2010 06:06 PM)Bambrugge Wrote:  ok:everybody is saying you can beat a gunner 1vs1 right?
so if they are with 3 and you are with 3 or more you can beat them too so what's the problem?

Because Shield and Leg-it are sharable, and while those are reloading, they can just use Frenzy Fire.

[Bambrugge]

(17-07-2010 06:09 PM)Bansheebot Wrote:  

(17-07-2010 06:06 PM)Bambrugge Wrote:  ok:everybody is saying you can beat a gunner 1vs1 right?
so if they are with 3 and you are with 3 or more you can beat them too so what's the problem?

Because Shield and Leg-it are sharable, and while those are reloading, they can just use Frenzy Fire.

almost everybody has shield en leg it so?

[8U]

Shield absorbs dmg and frenzy fire heals them. Not only that, leg it is faster than a mando's elixir. If you and... lets say 2 other soldiers against 3 gunners. At first you think it will be easy, think about now, they use shields and leg it and you can't even knife them. So in the end you die, the 2 soldiers heal but are eventually overwhelmed. So that means Gunners 1 You 0.

The reason why you think its easy is probably becuase you never fought a mob of gunners before, I have and just look at my kd, its gone from ok to worse..... Remember never underestimate anyone, even if they have bad kd.... I wouldn't just look at someone's kd and think they are completely horrible. Many have fixed their kdr, it's time for me to fix it too. Which is alot soon! Just not now, I'm hanging out here in the forums.

[Rokka]

Umm... How you can say anuthing when you have only lvl 5 gunner?
Long range MG is only good at middle ranges. in long ranges its... almost a useless.
Why nerf Leg it? It's most important ability for teamwork and gunner who have same weps and ability build as my royal gunner.
WTF? Zooka nerf? it's most useful weapon for gunner. Fastest way to kill tanks on foot. In my opinion, gunner is made for vehicle destroying.
FF I can accept.

Your suggestion is not so well thinked.

[SufferBaron]

^ See ^

Thats how I'd Brambugge to be, at least this guy isn't insulting. He just has an opinion.

But to be fair, I may have a level 5 gunner, but when I go into a server full of level 20's I still come out with ridiculous K/D's. (For a level 5).

[Bambrugge]

(17-07-2010 06:41 PM)SufferBaron Wrote:  ^ See ^

Thats how I'd Brambugge to be, at least this guy isn't insulting. He just has an opinion.

But to be fair, I may have a level 5 gunner, but when I go into a server full of level 20's I still come out with ridiculous K/D's. (For a level 5).

haha i just have an opinion too:i think your k/d isn't good so i think you are just not good enough train hard get more skills and beat that gunner that's what i mean the whole time

[CapitalistMan]

My opinions on this thread.

Leg-it: Haven't decided...

Frenzy-Fire: With the SHRMG, needs a nerf.

Bazooka: Definatly not. You want tanks to be even more OP?

IEG: Have not experianced this glitch.

LRMG: No nerf. The SHRMG has, surprisingly, has more range then the LRMG, so its fine.

[Bansheebot]

(17-07-2010 06:11 PM)Bambrugge Wrote:  

(17-07-2010 06:09 PM)Bansheebot Wrote:  

(17-07-2010 06:06 PM)Bambrugge Wrote:  ok:everybody is saying you can beat a gunner 1vs1 right?
so if they are with 3 and you are with 3 or more you can beat them too so what's the problem?

Because Shield and Leg-it are sharable, and while those are reloading, they can just use Frenzy Fire.

almost everybody has shield en leg it so?

Yea, but do they have infinite Leg-it and shield?
A group of Gunners can just constantly use their most useful abilities with (in a sense) no cooldown.