[Guide] Starting a decent clan

[VeeTh]

Well you could do it like blanks did and about 10000 other clans in other games and just set up an IRC channel on Quakenet. Get your players there and start playing. Then you can borrow/steal someones voip when you have your core group together. Then you can think about getting the server and your own voip with it. After that you can get some website/forums/whatever, but they are really not needed, just a little bonus if you like em. So really you only need 2 things, a meeting place where everyone hangs out when they are online and a voip so you can communicate in game.

[-BFH- Proozab]

(21-08-2010 09:23 PM)VeeTh Wrote:  Well you could do it like blanks did and about 10000 other clans in other games and just set up an IRC channel on Quakenet. Get your players there and start playing. Then you can borrow/steal someones voip when you have your core group together. Then you can think about getting the server and your own voip with it. After that you can get some website/forums/whatever, but they are really not needed, just a little bonus if you like em. So really you only need 2 things, a meeting place where everyone hangs out when they are online and a voip so you can communicate in game.

This.

You could just use TeamSpeak
I always hang out in my clans' teamspeak server, and it's a great way to communicate

[KnightXNinja]

(21-08-2010 09:23 PM)VeeTh Wrote:  Well you could do it like blanks did and about 10000 other clans in other games and just set up an IRC channel on Quakenet. Get your players there and start playing. Then you can borrow/steal someones voip when you have your core group together. Then you can think about getting the server and your own voip with it. After that you can get some website/forums/whatever, but they are really not needed, just a little bonus if you like em. So really you only need 2 things, a meeting place where everyone hangs out when they are online and a voip so you can communicate in game.

This could work, but it presents some problems. Unless you have a level 30s/really popular, you wont be able to get alot of high level players. Still, I will add it to the quotes

Still no responce from ub2old....

[VeeTh]

(21-08-2010 10:28 PM)KnightXNinja Wrote:  This could work, but it presents some problems. Unless you have a level 30s/really popular, you wont be able to get alot of high level players. Still, I will add it to the quotes

When we started out with just two players we discussed who of the best players we've ever met would be good additions to the clan, then asked them to join the IRC channel. Not long and we had our 7 man core team and started to actively play clanwars. Only after that has the popularity start to do the recruitment work. So what I'm trying to say is that if you want the best players for your team, you need to go and get them, not wait till they end up on your website/forum/recruitment post/etc.

[KnightXNinja]

(22-08-2010 09:47 AM)VeeTh Wrote:  

(21-08-2010 10:28 PM)KnightXNinja Wrote:  This could work, but it presents some problems. Unless you have a level 30s/really popular, you wont be able to get alot of high level players. Still, I will add it to the quotes

When we started out with just two players we discussed who of the best players we've ever met would be good additions to the clan, then asked them to join the IRC channel. Not long and we had our 7 man core team and started to actively play clanwars. Only after that has the popularity start to do the recruitment work. So what I'm trying to say is that if you want the best players for your team, you need to go and get them, not wait till they end up on your website/forum/recruitment post/etc.

Like I said, unless you are really skilled/really popular (like the blanks founders are), it will be hard to get going with just that. Thanks for your comment, and I will add this to the quotes as well, in case I am wrong

Regards,
Knight

[SufferBaron]

No, I wasn't being Sarcastic, it's a good guide. A few things that are a little... odd. But other than that I think it's a fine guide for people who are new to starting out clans.

And I also think that when starting a clan it's 30% Effort, 20% Knowledge, 10% Experience and 40% Luck.

Peace out.

[KnightXNinja]

(22-08-2010 08:59 PM)SufferBaron Wrote:  No, I wasn't being Sarcastic, it's a good guide. A few things that are a little... odd. But other than that I think it's a fine guide for people who are new to starting out clans.

And I also think that when starting a clan it's 30% Effort, 20% Knowledge, 10% Experience and 40% Luck.

Peace out.

Amen to that

Thanks anyways,
Knight

[SufferBaron]

No problem mate :3

[MassiveImpulsa]

(22-08-2010 08:37 PM)KnightXNinja Wrote:  

(22-08-2010 09:47 AM)VeeTh Wrote:  

(21-08-2010 10:28 PM)KnightXNinja Wrote:  This could work, but it presents some problems. Unless you have a level 30s/really popular, you wont be able to get alot of high level players. Still, I will add it to the quotes

When we started out with just two players we discussed who of the best players we've ever met would be good additions to the clan, then asked them to join the IRC channel. Not long and we had our 7 man core team and started to actively play clanwars. Only after that has the popularity start to do the recruitment work. So what I'm trying to say is that if you want the best players for your team, you need to go and get them, not wait till they end up on your website/forum/recruitment post/etc.

Like I said, unless you are really skilled/really popular (like the blanks founders are), it will be hard to get going with just that. Thanks for your comment, and I will add this to the quotes as well, in case I am wrong

Regards,
Knight

That's EXACTLY (or sort of atleast) where you're wrong.

I didn't know anything about blanks, nor any of the founders untill I played against them in the Epsilon Tournament.

Playing with many players and earning their respect, makes it extremely easy to hand-pick players you want.

[VeeTh]

(22-08-2010 11:10 PM)MassiveImpulsa Wrote:  That's EXACTLY (or sort of atleast) where you're wrong.

I didn't know anything about blanks, nor any of the founders untill I played against them in the Epsilon Tournament.

That's ture. I hadn't heard of you guys either before the tournament. Funny how we never got to the same server through matchmaking as we usually remembered the good players we met.

Though about the whole being "famous" thing, it's very individual. I mean some people are famous to you but might not be to others. And how to judge how famous someone is? Is there some size limit for the group of people who know the person after which he becomes famous? Kinda individual I would say. For example I would say Keisari was kinda famous even before blanks because of his movies. Also the Suami clan where Keisari and I came from was somewhat known, mostly from the early closed beta "clan wars" and the server we had. And of course everyone of us were in some way between smaller groups. Like for example the SuperHipers who were known back then by many as those crazy royals who challenge the whole national team just by themselves (though there were 3 of them back then ). nFn was quite known from his very agressive sniper play style. Zyklon was very popular as he was pretty much always playing somewhere and was a real pain in the ass to play against. How we found Nelis is actually a funny story as I hadn't heard of him back then. He was dominating the RATS server and some of the RATS discussed on IRC that he's most likely a hacker. Well me and Keisari went to the server to see for ourselves what's this guy up to. No hacks but a great aim and a smart player. We were greatly impressed and asked him to join right away. So everyone is "famous" somewhere, it just all comes down to when your paths cross.

(22-08-2010 11:10 PM)MassiveImpulsa Wrote:  Playing with many players and earning their respect, makes it extremely easy to hand-pick players you want.

Exactly.

[MassiveImpulsa]

(23-08-2010 08:50 AM)VeeTh Wrote:  

(22-08-2010 11:10 PM)MassiveImpulsa Wrote:  That's EXACTLY (or sort of atleast) where you're wrong.

I didn't know anything about blanks, nor any of the founders untill I played against them in the Epsilon Tournament.

That's ture. I hadn't heard of you guys either before the tournament. Funny how we never got to the same server through matchmaking as we usually remembered the good players we met.

Though about the whole being "famous" thing, it's very individual. I mean some people are famous to you but might not be to others. And how to judge how famous someone is? Is there some size limit for the group of people who know the person after which he becomes famous? Kinda individual I would say. For example I would say Keisari was kinda famous even before blanks because of his movies. Also the Suami clan where Keisari and I came from was somewhat known, mostly from the early closed beta "clan wars" and the server we had. And of course everyone of us were in some way between smaller groups. Like for example the SuperHipers who were known back then by many as those crazy royals who challenge the whole national team just by themselves (though there were 3 of them back then ). nFn was quite known from his very agressive sniper play style. Zyklon was very popular as he was pretty much always playing somewhere and was a real pain in the ass to play against. How we found Nelis is actually a funny story as I hadn't heard of him back then. He was dominating the RATS server and some of the RATS discussed on IRC that he's most likely a hacker. Well me and Keisari went to the server to see for ourselves what's this guy up to. No hacks but a great aim and a smart player. We were greatly impressed and asked him to join right away. So everyone is "famous" somewhere, it just all comes down to when your paths cross.

(22-08-2010 11:10 PM)MassiveImpulsa Wrote:  Playing with many players and earning their respect, makes it extremely easy to hand-pick players you want.

Exactly.

Time to quote^ KnightXNinja


It all depends which communities you're known in and such, and what servers you regularly play on. The main reason why I didnt know anything about Veeth or similar was because I joined first during the first day of the Open Beta release, so I didnt know anything about the players in blanks, as theire mostly Closed Beta.

[cjah25]

It's pretty good for a first clan guide keep it up knight.

[-=MFCPU=-Steel]

When starting a clan off, you have to go and work at every person that's going to join. The members that have been asked to join are always more active than random ones that join off of a thread.

MFCPU is already one of the biggest BFH clans, and our site is just a free forum, it all depends on the fun you and your members can have with whatever you are given

[KnightXNinja]

(23-08-2010 09:09 AM)MassiveImpulsa Wrote:  

(23-08-2010 08:50 AM)VeeTh Wrote:  

(22-08-2010 11:10 PM)MassiveImpulsa Wrote:  That's EXACTLY (or sort of atleast) where you're wrong.

I didn't know anything about blanks, nor any of the founders untill I played against them in the Epsilon Tournament.

That's ture. I hadn't heard of you guys either before the tournament. Funny how we never got to the same server through matchmaking as we usually remembered the good players we met.

Though about the whole being "famous" thing, it's very individual. I mean some people are famous to you but might not be to others. And how to judge how famous someone is? Is there some size limit for the group of people who know the person after which he becomes famous? Kinda individual I would say. For example I would say Keisari was kinda famous even before blanks because of his movies. Also the Suami clan where Keisari and I came from was somewhat known, mostly from the early closed beta "clan wars" and the server we had. And of course everyone of us were in some way between smaller groups. Like for example the SuperHipers who were known back then by many as those crazy royals who challenge the whole national team just by themselves (though there were 3 of them back then ). nFn was quite known from his very agressive sniper play style. Zyklon was very popular as he was pretty much always playing somewhere and was a real pain in the ass to play against. How we found Nelis is actually a funny story as I hadn't heard of him back then. He was dominating the RATS server and some of the RATS discussed on IRC that he's most likely a hacker. Well me and Keisari went to the server to see for ourselves what's this guy up to. No hacks but a great aim and a smart player. We were greatly impressed and asked him to join right away. So everyone is "famous" somewhere, it just all comes down to when your paths cross.

(22-08-2010 11:10 PM)MassiveImpulsa Wrote:  Playing with many players and earning their respect, makes it extremely easy to hand-pick players you want.

Exactly.

Time to quote^ KnightXNinja


It all depends which communities you're known in and such, and what servers you regularly play on. The main reason why I didnt know anything about Veeth or similar was because I joined first during the first day of the Open Beta release, so I didnt know anything about the players in blanks, as theire mostly Closed Beta.

Sounds great. Thanks for your advice, Massive and Vee

Regards,
Knight

[Drebin]

building a clan is quite easy using a community like BFH just make sure you include all of the best members you can then setting a level for future applicants. Remember a successful clan is not one that excepts everyone since then there is nothing special about being a member and showing off the clan membership. It's best to start small and grow instead of aiming big and falling at the first hurdle.

I can't say I read all the text above me as that would take a long time.... but nice guide it has some useful information there.. but as for web hosting it's more about domain forwarding than actually where your files are uploaded to a good domain forwarder is .co.nr where its completely free to sign up and make it look like a professional website without having to add the .webs.com or what ever making it look less special.

as for gaining members just join the community make friends get to know people and ask for help there is no shame in making a clan with a group of people not only sharing the load of management but also gives you a base to bounce ideas off each other.

Ranks are a nice idea but you will find most people know where they stand in a clan without these more due to the join date and the involvement either with the clan's website or the thread here.

As for signatures it's a nice touch but remember they need to be unique for each user instead of using the same sig for an entire clan as something like that gets annoying to the users and they would feel less valued within the clan.

Unity is always good getting familiar minds together and discussing options is always the best idea for a group of people... yes there will be disagreements but that only shows you are trying to progress the usability of the clan.

being in a SOLID CLAN can always seem constrictive making the users feel they cannot participate in other communities so keep that in mind when you start the clan just be more relaxed than an uptight leader.

hearing peoples views is always good you may be a leader of a clan with 200+ members but even the lower people within the clan get brilliant ideas of how to improve the clan.

Advertisements and links signatures are the best method to do this as long as your clan have a large forum base. but remember you are building a base for friends that play with each other so word of mouth is also a useful tool.

Thats pretty much what I have to say on the subject feel free to PM me a question or what ever but just remember just because a clan is small doesn't mean it has no potential.

Yours,

Drebin

Edit: just realised I wrote as much as the OP but hey it's all good advice

[KnightXNinja]

THanks drebin

[KnightXNinja]

How long does it take ub2old? He is as slow as a .....

[KnightXNinja]

I officially take it back that http://www.webs.com is not a good website maker.

http://www.thesns.webs.com

Soon to be a domain name

[KnightXNinja]

Im growing tired of this. When is an admin going to come along?

[19overlord95]

nice thread knightninja, to bad you left kca, good luck with your clan...