my experience is that the first 10 lvls sucks as a gunner. After that the fun begins. FF lvl5 is my kind of style. gives you more exp points so lvling goes faster. you dont get more exp points from legit or shield.
With Keg i always have trouble pinpointing where the keg should land to get desent hits.
I tried different builds but FF makes the game more fun for me.
I have tryd but it dont work for me.. Best is Shiels +5 and leg-it +5 and then maybe franzy... Use shield first and then when shield is used upp use leg-it.
Very interesting to come across such a supporter of FF.
Whilst trying to get
MG Mastery III done I switched from my usual shotgun to LR and MR MG's, and have stuck with them ever since, finding the dps to be better at mid to long range and more reliable close range, due to lack of reloading.
Obviously, you can do more damage with shotguns at point blank with good aim, but I've found the MG allows me to deal with more opponents at once, even if it takes slightly longer to mow down each opponent. I find it easier to track targets with constant MG fire, than to reliably time opportune shotgun blasts.
I still find Keg (as others have mentioned), more useful generally than you do, for all the reasons previously stated. It's great for multi-target dps and as a general opener. RPG + keg for the flyball win.
Also, finally, I find
IEG is
an absolute must for any Gunner. Why? Because it can be used to;
1)
Hoover up Grenade spam, Troop Traps, incoming Kegs and even TnT placed on your tank or tossed into the mix
2) A Gunner in the secondary tank seat can
effectively shield a tank with IEG, making a tank vs. tank battle brutally in your favour if well timed with it's usage
3) Similarly, when RPG'ing a tank on foot, IEG not only shields you from two tank shells, it heals you as well. Usually, one takes the first shell, and then heals this damage with the following two being eaten.
My Gunner has IEG level 5, and I remember a game of SS where I took out 3 tanks in the open in between Lighthouse and Hillside Farm, with them all shooting me more or less at once. My 10 sec IEG cooldown meant I was alternatively hitting Shield then IEG and I constantly went down to low health, then would heal up from all the shells whilst IEG was on, then Shield would be ready again. By this time the first tank was dead, and the cycle repeated. Felt wonderful to suck up all those shells

You should also add about IEG that it is great for drawing commandos out into the open. In a tank you can set yourself up to bait the commando to TNT you, IEG the TNT and then destroy the commando at your leisure.
I've also used it to eat up TTs and force a commando to knife me or snipe me at close range. So long as I'm on the ball and close to full health they always die. Really helps gunners call the shots and force commandos to play by the gunner's rules.
So end of story is I think at least 1 point should go to IEG.
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(01-09-2009 10:06 AM)Srb.in Wrote: [ -> ]I have tryd but it dont work for me.. Best is Shiels +5 and leg-it +5 and then maybe franzy... Use shield first and then when shield is used upp use leg-it.
or first leg it and then shield

(27-07-2009 10:56 AM)sOmEoNeCrAzY Wrote: [ -> ]MY GUNNER GUIDE
hey guys,
there has been a lot of posts about how weak the gunner is. i notcied they dropped to very low numbers lately.
there are many gunner guides. i think, most of them are not optimal. at least not for me.
so i will post my tiny gunner guide here to help you guys play as gunner and NOT take the damn sniper like 90% of all players do.
im just level ~20 with my gunner but i hardly find another player that really beats me over and over again.
so i think im quite good. usually best of server, k-d most of the time 10 minimum.
so i can say my style works great for me. find out if its an alternative for you, too ?!
the main problem of the gunner is damage output.
you have more health but do less damage than a medic. even with shotgun.
so we have to fix this main problem.
if you face 2 or 3 enemies at once you have to deal damage fast, to get all 3 down before they kill you !
with normal means it takes by far too long.
so read on....
so here we go:
weapons:
shotguns are not good. some people like it together with legit but i tell you: no ! they dont do enough damage.
the fast mg does so little damage you need half your magazine to get one guy down. it takes way too long.
so we end up with:
slot1: long range mg
slot2 (main weapon): default mg with unlimited time
and bazooka of course
widgets:
i take splendid bandage as i often do not lose enough health to need supreme bandage.
wrench: take 3 or 4 point wrench. not best. its not necessary.
skills:
here it comes to many discussions.
i have found out what is definitely the best for me:
keg: leave it ! many people like keg but its crappy. why ? can you remember being killed by a keg ? no ? same here, the keg doesnt really do much.
only in rare situations. you have better use for your points. as you cant look through walls you waste time with throwing the keg when you could be
dealing damage instead. so just leave the keg.
IEG: i dont have a point at this. i just rarely face nades and with tanks its not so helpful. so we leave this out even if it comes in handy some times.
shield: leave the 1st point.
frenzy: this is the key ! remember what i said above ? about the lack of damage output ? so here we got ! get frenzy to 5 as soon as possible.
with 5 on frenzy you can use it often and out-damage every other guy when using default MG. so this is your main skill ! you can take down 3 people at
once with one use of frenzy, if you do it well. so max out frenzy !
legit: after frenzy is full, go for legit. you need it to travel around fast and get back into the action if you die.
after frenzy and legit is full (level 20) go for shield or IEG.
fighting:
once you have set up everything correctly we can start kicking serious ****.
so here we go:
spawn, use legit to get into the action. if you face an enemy:
fire up the frenzy skill. blast him with default mg. once frenzy runs out, kick it with legit. run around in circles around him (so hes the center of the
circle). you are fast, even good players miss you. while you are running, monitor your health closely ! if it drops down, use shield. this is your last
stand. once shield is over, you are done for.
heal up after the fight and start like that again. frenzy first to deal damage, legit after that to get away or avoid hits and shield third to boost your
last piece of health.
you can mix in bazooka to throw enemies around if you like.
with this style i kill about everyone
.
because:
i have more health than medics, i deal way more damage to them !
the other gunners usually wasted points in keg or use fast mg. both factors make them less powerfull than my combination. i own them.
snipers... well... you can use frenzy and long range mg but snipers are overpowered anyway.
if you face a sniper
So! we're playing with same style alrdy

Well I don't really like the guide or rather the style after playing it for a while.
I'm basically a slugger, a tank, right now, high hero shield ,a fast shotty, and standard MG.
And my keg...because I've gotten quite a few kills with it by now and it just bashes in the heads of capping commandos who are not expecting it or don't get away from it. Easy one shot kills with the swatter. also leg it, yeah, kinda forgot that, but woking on it (yeah I know, I'm a stupid noob)...though I always expect the enemies to come to daddy as it were.
Quite happy with my layout and style and I end up in the top 3 most of the time so yeh, I'm happy.
Thx the guide has really helped, usaully i was near the bottom of the table, now i,m in the top 3 most of the time.
But, i think instead of powering leg it, i think you should power up the shield so when your ff runs out you can protect yourself from damage that the enemies r dealing to u.
And thx again i now been owning the enemy with mine gunner.



I use this and it's really good, usually i can take down 3 opponents at once and i ALWAYS end up first in every game with about 2000-3500 points and around 20 kills and around 2 deaths

Nice guide. Btw, I use the keg and then i shoot on it with the rocket launcher seems to make bigger explosion and a bit more Damage^^
No keg? Are you out of your mind?? How dare you to call this a guide if you don't even use a keg! This is the most useful part of gunning! And i can tell.
Everybody has his own style, i know. But don't say it's useless.
Be sure to spend your points carefully. Dont go all out rank 5. Split em with the good skills with the most and so on.. I suggest with the update. GO all out frenzy fire. Go double MG. Default and one from the store. Get all out keg and bazooka(use this correctly,refer to burney22's guide for info, while FF is on CD). Get all out hero shield and level 1 IeG or leg it. Leg it is sort of useless f you go double MG.
man, i tried it out, but this doesn't suit my play style i just need to be fast and overrun my opponent, however this should be very useful style for someone.
i agree with your guide except for one thing. Max leg it and shield before getting FF those two abiliies seem to give me a lot more health so i think they are more important.
hey, i like it but im a sniper so, ha!
in my opinion is the best, when you get max. leg it and max. explosive keg on level 20. next update for me will be i eat grenades on level 22. upgrade the shild is a waste of hp i think.
so i'm really a fan of max keg's, because theres no other weapon, wich make so much damage like that.

Yeah Kegs are good and so is the shield