When I first started playing gunners I thought it was "Let's max out shield first", but then I started to see that Hero Shield, doesn't help out too much, but it does give you extra hp. When i started with a gunner I decided to refund my hps and get Leg-It first because A slow gunner can pretty much get owned even by the non-elixiring commandos. But to get back on track with this...
I find Frenzy Fire is the most liked ability for gunners that people focus on and I myself will start spamming FF. But again I see some guys use Shield instead. Do you prefer Frenzy Fire or Hero Shield? For me, i will prefer FF after seeing what it can do for gunners. It can increase your accuracy, your crits, your mg power, and you get hp back for every 4th hit. But all HS can do is just take damage for you which is cool. So what do you guys think? Sure, there are snipers and BB soldiers, but with FF, Shield, and Leg-it, those guys won't bother you too much.
i like both the max shield can keep you alive from a sniper if leg is on cooldown and FF is just ossum. and now for gunner is OP comments
I use Them Both.
Now i have lvl 5 Shield and Lvl 4 FF
I'll be the first.
I won't say that gunners are OP, necessarily... But I see them as over VERSATILE. They are called the slow, strong class by EA. Yet they have the best speed enhancing ability in the game, AND 2 good defensive abilities, and 2 offensive capabilities, and then FF is basically the last straw, enhancing both offense and defense. If gunners are made to be the short range, slow moving class, why does EA/DICE (whatever) give them basically all speed/offensive capabilities.
Disagree if you wish, those are not opinions up there.
You get more profitt out of HeroShield,
8 Seconds reload and 60+ hp.
Frenzy just 12+ hp for every 4 shot... --, (reload time = 12-10)
and u will be an easier target then with no abillity activated...
FF for the win.
i would also love to get my default hero point from the start and use it on something else than shield
If u havent 100000 VP for healing and if u want kill more ppl - go for FF
If u wanna "look" cool - go for shield
(13-09-2010 11:36 PM)CrashTHOR Wrote: [ -> ]If u havent 100000 VP for healing and if u want kill more ppl - go for FF
If u wanna "look" cool - go for shield
Look cool? are u stupid or something?
The lvl 5 shield gives u 60+ to urself and everyone close to u for a really long time.
Includes also a 8!!! seconds reload, that's short!!
(13-09-2010 11:18 PM)IsThisGameSerius Wrote: [ -> ]I'll be the first.
I won't say that gunners are OP, necessarily... But I see them as over VERSATILE. They are called the slow, strong class by EA. Yet they have the best speed enhancing ability in the game, AND 2 good defensive abilities, and 2 offensive capabilities, and then FF is basically the last straw, enhancing both offense and defense. If gunners are made to be the short range, slow moving class, why does EA/DICE (whatever) give them basically all speed/offensive capabilities.
Disagree if you wish, those are not opinions up there.
Yes they are opinions. The same thing could be said for every class.
As for the FF HS debate.
I was mad at first when I spent my 1st HP into Shield. FF is definitely better than HS.
Yes, HS gives you more life for you and your buddies but you're still a clean target and those 60HP will go away fast. FF on the other hand gives you some of that life back, which can be great if you use it on somebody who isn't shooting at you. You'll get full HP in no time.
And don't forget the bonus FF gives to accuracy and critical which give ==>> more points!!
But I'm pretty satisfied with lvl 1 HS. It saved my but many times. Right after my FF ends or when I notice that FF is not healing me enough to survive, I switch to HS and BLAM!
But FF is to slow reloading.
Use ur brain, HS gives u 60+ and BAM!! there u got anoter 60+ after 8 seconds! that's swosh!
U are left less protected with a FF then a shield.
And by the way, only cowards shots players that doesn't move.
I have never in my life shot someone in the back or anthing while the enemie is not moving
ff is better (for u self) then shield, if u shoot like 40 hits = 120 hp agains 60 hp shield... and with ff u can heal ur self
(14-09-2010 12:00 AM)D.D.Anderson Wrote: [ -> ]But FF is to slow reloading.
Use ur brain, HS gives u 60+ and BAM!! there u got anoter 60+ after 8 seconds! that's swosh!
U are left less protected with a FF then a shield.
And by the way, only cowards shots players that doesn't move.
I have never in my life shot someone in the back or anthing while the enemie is not moving
1. How long does it take to shoot down a full HP gunner? Definitely less than 8 seconds. Now how long does it take to shoot down a 60 HP gunner? Yeah..
2. Don't forget, Leg It is the best gunner ability so that will help you to go to your closest soldier for heal or hide somewhere until he comes.
3. I never said you should shoot at somebody not moving. I said if you see somebody who doesn't see you (eg. he's shooting at your teammates but not at you...), you should use FF on him.
4. Yeah you never shot an AFK guy. LIES!!! They are the best to use FF on when on low HP.
HP loads faster and then its 120 against 120. Noone wins.
But my "D.D.Anderson" character's best Abillity is the Shield.
Its all about been fast and heavy armored at once.
I need a Fast deploying shield with much power right on the spot!
FF can't offer me such a great cuality as the HP.
Only Noobs shots AFK people with FF...
Im not a bad player like everyone, im Proud of been a total clean heavygunner
Never shot a single AFK guy, not even with FF, since that abillity does not reach
my expectations and cualifyes for This Veteran gunner.
FF is not good enough.
(14-09-2010 12:00 AM)D.D.Anderson Wrote: [ -> ]But FF is to slow reloading.
Use ur brain, HS gives u 60+ and BAM!! there u got anoter 60+ after 8 seconds! that's swosh!
U are left less protected with a FF then a shield.
And by the way, only cowards shots players that doesn't move.
I have never in my life shot someone in the back or anthing while the enemie is not moving
u mad
....have u ever tried FF?
FF (lvl 5) = cooldown 10 sec. 10 sec. use - with cheeser ever 4th hit heal 12 HP + bonus to aim (very very useful for gunner) and dont forget for basic shield - u cant remove it
tell me what hapend when your shield is out - its not too hard to take out that 60 hp....sometimes its rly fast....and than what - u wait 15 sec. for time use + 8 sec. for cooldown - FF is still with u and heal u...
When I started gunner nubbin' on some vehicle rotations, at first I thought FF was the way to go. Unlike half you 'effeminate flowers' out there, I don't buy widgets (aside for VP ones for goofing off in unranked/pre-game) or super weapons (except the knife on commando). This means that I am totally dependent on 'questionable' soldiers for my healing needs, and therefore loved the health I got from FF. HOWEVER, I soon realized just how terrible it is to face a FF gunner, and dropped it out of shame. Any half brain-dead gunner with a functional left mouse button can kill like there's no tomorrow with FF. So I switched to hero shield, and went for the 'endurance' build rather than the 'god mode' build.
HS is just as good as CM for your nearby team in close fights, lets you minimize damage between battles, and is relatively shame-free. I still dislike playing as a gunner (it feels too easy) but it's needed on some maps to have one. Besides, I kill FF gunners all the time with HS... without an ability aiming for me.
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(13-09-2010 11:03 PM)Mc4 Wrote: [ -> ]ff is weaksauce
(14-09-2010 12:13 AM)D.D.Anderson Wrote: [ -> ]HP loads faster and then its 120 against 120. Noone wins.
But my "D.D.Anderson" character's best Abillity is the Shield.
Its all about been fast and heavy armored at once.
I need a Fast deploying shield with much power right on the spot!
FF can't offer me such a great cuality as the HP.
FF = ~120 HP
HSx2 = 120 HP
- the 8 sec it took to refresh. You'll die in those 8 seconds 4/5 times.
ur not so smart dd.anderson. wtf are u talking about 120 vs 120... if u fight gunner vs gunner shiled vs frency and u shot 80 shots at eatch others 60 hp for the shield = 210 hp vs frency say u hit like 40 shots 270 hp and the realod times only 2 sec the diffrens
