Commando limit.

[Astrobi]

commando limit is stupid. and commandos are not OP. i also play as gunner and soldier, and i can kill commandos easily with good technique.

so there shouldnt be a commando limit. if there is a limit, it should be for every class.

[s0zage]

I don't believe that it is cause people believe that commando is OP but because commandos are the only class that is not good for teamplay.
every commando build except for 2x LRP is a lone wolf build and that usually does not help out your team.
also lots of people cry and think that the commando is OP when they get nearly instand killed by one since they do not know that it is hard to set up such kills (atleast for a knifer) so they scream ''NOOO COMMANDOS ARE OP*commando limit activate*''.

[Fobber1300]

(29-04-2012 09:50 AM)jackiesparrow schrieb:  Hello Heroes.

I have got very many complains about commando limit, I agree it is not fair.
Firstible of all, Commando's are not overpowerd. Because EA should never make a game with big difference in prestige of the class.
Second is that some people find the gunner overpowerd, But they almost never get kicked out of server's.
Many people can't or barely train their Commando this way.
So my point is that server with Commando (Class) limit are unranked server's so they game would be more fun to play.

Samarias-Corbon

I think there should be a Gunner limited I never see Gunners getting kicked

[epicchickengod]

Imagine this, you are the only gunner in your team with another soldier on your side, and the other 6 players are commandos. The other side is filled with Soldiers and gunners, you are on vv ctf, now keep thinking, what would be the result of the game?

Massive unbalanceness.

[Il_Cippo]

(04-05-2012 09:25 AM)epicchickengod schrieb:  Imagine this, you are the only gunner in your team with another soldier on your side, and the other 6 players are commandos. The other side is filled with Soldiers and gunners, you are on vv ctf, now keep thinking, what would be the result of the game?

Massive unbalanceness.

Imagine this: you are the only mando, and all the other players are gunners...oh no you don't have to imagine this, just click the play now button and join with a mando to realize how it is.

it's frustrating, you can't exp your hero because of this stupid limit

[steviboy]

Sorry guys but i don't like the comandolimit. It's hatefull because it's hard to find a server without it, or with only 1 comando. I think that it would be better to make the limitation to 3 or 4. It's like a kind of discrimination. Being a good comando requires some skills, and with the arguement that comandos are hackers, you can't win this discussion. There are also gunners and soldiers who hacks. A few days ago i tried to join a random game, and i needed to retry it 9 times, just because of the limitation. I know it's hard to beat a few comandos who are aiming at 1 target,... but every class has his advantages and disadvantages...

[s0zage]

(29-04-2012 10:04 AM)2DayULive schrieb:  

(29-04-2012 09:50 AM)jackiesparrow schrieb:  Hello Heroes.

I have got very many complains about commando limit, I agree it is not fair.
Firstible of all, Commando's are not overpowerd. Because EA should never make a game with big difference in prestige of the class.
Second is that some people find the gunner overpowerd, But they almost never get kicked out of server's.
Many people can't or barely train their Commando this way.
So my point is that server with Commando (Class) limit are unranked server's so they game would be more fun to play.

Samarias-Corbon

It is fair. The class is OP, mainly snipers(especially with aimbot). Your first reason does not state how cheap the class can kill. Although gunners might be OP, they do not ruin the game in the same way mandos do. In fact, despite gunners being OP, they actually contribute to the team. Unlike mandos, hiding 24/7, killing way 2 fast, etc. I also do not agree with your point, they should add flaws to the class. Especially to stealth and PS, playing with mando is like playing pregames.

OP chart
1)commando
2)gunners
3)soldier(I think)

AHAHAHAHAHAHA AHAHAHAHAHA.
k lets get serious yes snipers can be OP but dual pistol and knife commandos are UP as hell and what the hell do you mean, no flaws?
Knifing gets instandly countered.
Sniping [if you get the chance to] isn't even that hard to counter to be honest, just shoot them with your LRP.
And the only class that has no flaws is gunner cause it's flaws are meant to be low movement speed and bad accuracy/bad at long range but leg - it and frenzy fire fix that so it seriously has no flaws.

[cimcime]

(04-05-2012 09:25 AM)epicchickengod schrieb:  Imagine this, you are the only gunner in your team with another soldier on your side, and the other 6 players are commandos. The other side is filled with Soldiers and gunners, you are on vv ctf, now keep thinking, what would be the result of the game?

Massive unbalanceness.

+1
mando limit is requared because commandos are underpowered
commando is only op against alone enemies
and at high lvl servers there are none walks alone

[epicchickengod]

(04-05-2012 11:25 AM)Il_Cippo schrieb:  

(04-05-2012 09:25 AM)epicchickengod schrieb:  Imagine this, you are the only gunner in your team with another soldier on your side, and the other 6 players are commandos. The other side is filled with Soldiers and gunners, you are on vv ctf, now keep thinking, what would be the result of the game?

Massive unbalanceness.

Imagine this: you are the only mando, and all the other players are gunners...oh no you don't have to imagine this, just click the play now button and join with a mando to realize how it is.

it's frustrating, you can't exp your hero because of this stupid limit

I prefer being killed by a group of gunners really. The game doesnt get slow paced at least. and servers nowadays have Gunner limit too.

[Papajax]

Commandos not good for teamplay??? Seriously? If you get a greedy commando on your team then yes. But get them in view of the enemies route and overlooking the group battle then you have a valuable asset to the team. Every chance I get I try to help my team out by marking the enemy as they are running past me. Not taking shots at them but marking to give my team an idea of what the enemy is doing. I'll take shots @ lone enemies that are running around or camping near the spawn points. Commando's are not OP and I think if there is a mando limit then there should be gunner and soldier limits.

[Knifes...:D]

(05-05-2012 03:41 PM)Papajax schrieb:  Commandos not good for teamplay??? Seriously? If you get a greedy commando on your team then yes. But get them in view of the enemies route and overlooking the group battle then you have a valuable asset to the team. Every chance I get I try to help my team out by marking the enemy as they are running past me. Not taking shots at them but marking to give my team an idea of what the enemy is doing. I'll take shots @ lone enemies that are running around or camping near the spawn points. Commando's are not OP and I think if there is a mando limit then there should be gunner and soldier limits.

Commando's aren't teamplay enough.
What can they do?
-Spam troop traps on your flag
-Spam Mark target
-Take out a single target with a knife. Chance of success = 25%.
-Snipe enemies to provide cover. Although this is majorily negated for being ZEH PRO MANDO OLOLOL by randoms.

Not much, really.

[DangerDolly]

No. Just no. Mando limits are up to the server owners. I played in a server yesterday without mando limit as a gunner, and i couldn't take a single step before 5 mandos with high level'd PS started unloading on me. It was an instant death, so I gave up and left.

The game is good as it is, the only thing needing a tweak are the tonics, and possibly buffing the accuracy in the Pirate pistol, since it's as accurate as a sniper without scoping atm. The damage it does now is good, but it's simply impossible to hit with it.

[sniperbullethero]

i thing that there must be gunner limit in the servers.All classes can be overpowered,for example today i see one soldeier who kill with ak-74 from very long range and the commando was with sniper rifle.i thing that there must be gunner limit, because when 3 or 4 gunners come in your base with modern MG,s and rocket launchers they defeat all your vehicles and everything is in hell.

[WorldBosh]

(29-04-2012 10:04 AM)2DayULive schrieb:  

(29-04-2012 09:50 AM)jackiesparrow schrieb:  Hello Heroes.

I have got very many complains about commando limit, I agree it is not fair.
Firstible of all, Commando's are not overpowerd. Because EA should never make a game with big difference in prestige of the class.
Second is that some people find the gunner overpowerd, But they almost never get kicked out of server's.
Many people can't or barely train their Commando this way.
So my point is that server with Commando (Class) limit are unranked server's so they game would be more fun to play.

Samarias-Corbon

It is fair. The class is OP, mainly snipers(especially with aimbot). Your first reason does not state how cheap the class can kill. Although gunners might be OP, they do not ruin the game in the same way mandos do. In fact, despite gunners being OP, they actually contribute to the team. Unlike mandos, hiding 24/7, killing way 2 fast, etc. I also do not agree with your point, they should add flaws to the class. Especially to stealth and PS, playing with mando is like playing pregames.

OP chart
1)commando
2)gunners
3)soldier(I think)

This, just this, although I DO wonder why you mention aimbotters, since aimbotters make anything OP .

(29-04-2012 06:07 PM)viKKid schrieb:  Let commando limit stay,
but we need to add gunner limit.
That's seriously not okay,
and this is what i submit !

Now for real, we need that mando limit, but it should be added for gunners also. There's nothing worse than 1 soldier with 5 lvl heal, and like 5 gunners rushing.

(29-04-2012 10:04 AM)2DayULive schrieb:  

(29-04-2012 09:50 AM)jackiesparrow schrieb:  Hello Heroes.

I have got very many complains about commando limit, I agree it is not fair.
Firstible of all, Commando's are not overpowerd. Because EA should never make a game with big difference in prestige of the class.
Second is that some people find the gunner overpowerd, But they almost never get kicked out of server's.
Many people can't or barely train their Commando this way.
So my point is that server with Commando (Class) limit are unranked server's so they game would be more fun to play.

Samarias-Corbon

It is fair. The class is OP, mainly snipers(especially with aimbot). Your first reason does not state how cheap the class can kill. Although gunners might be OP, they do not ruin the game in the same way mandos do. In fact, despite gunners being OP, they actually contribute to the team. Unlike mandos, hiding 24/7, killing way 2 fast, etc. I also do not agree with your point, they should add flaws to the class. Especially to stealth and PS, playing with mando is like playing pregames.

OP chart
1)commando
2)gunners
3)soldier(I think)

w00t ? You think it's easy to play as a sniper ? If you are an idiot, yes. If you are walking solo or you aren't near some buildings or place you can hide, it's easy for mando cuz then you are just deadman walking. And there aren't many mandos that actually have 2 things to be a good sniper:
-Instinct
-Skill
Both things are hard to get.

Hiding 24/7 ? Yes, think what would happen with mandos if they wouldn't have stealth, or like if you move your stealth breaks.
The game is pretty balanced actually. You just have to play with a brain, and your team have to play with it.

Snipers ARE insanely easy to play once you get a little practice in to sharpen your aim. Once you can aim for the head constantly on a fast moving target, theres not much left to learn on a commando. There aren't many variable that can fk up your sniping besides another sniper if you do things right.

If a horde of gunners are a problem, then you have to co-ordinate your team. Gunners OBVIOUSLY lack long ranged fighting capability so TWO able snipers can easily put down 2 gunners a PIECE and elixir away and come from another angle to finish the fifth.

(03-05-2012 04:33 PM)s0zage schrieb:  I don't believe that it is cause people believe that commando is OP but because commandos are the only class that is not good for teamplay.
every commando build except for 2x LRP is a lone wolf build and that usually does not help out your team.
also lots of people cry and think that the commando is OP when they get nearly instand killed by one since they do not know that it is hard to set up such kills (atleast for a knifer) so they scream ''NOOO COMMANDOS ARE OP*commando limit activate*''.

Hard to set up sniper kills xD? HARD? If EA removed stealth and nerfed PS then yea, it'd be hard. As things are at the moment, its insanely easy.

(04-05-2012 09:12 AM)Fobber1300 schrieb:  

(29-04-2012 09:50 AM)jackiesparrow schrieb:  Hello Heroes.

I have got very many complains about commando limit, I agree it is not fair.
Firstible of all, Commando's are not overpowerd. Because EA should never make a game with big difference in prestige of the class.
Second is that some people find the gunner overpowerd, But they almost never get kicked out of server's.
Many people can't or barely train their Commando this way.
So my point is that server with Commando (Class) limit are unranked server's so they game would be more fun to play.

Samarias-Corbon

I think there should be a Gunner limited I never see Gunners getting kicked

And why is this?

(04-05-2012 11:25 AM)Il_Cippo schrieb:  

(04-05-2012 09:25 AM)epicchickengod schrieb:  Imagine this, you are the only gunner in your team with another soldier on your side, and the other 6 players are commandos. The other side is filled with Soldiers and gunners, you are on vv ctf, now keep thinking, what would be the result of the game?

Massive unbalanceness.

Imagine this: you are the only mando, and all the other players are gunners...oh no you don't have to imagine this, just click the play now button and join with a mando to realize how it is.

it's frustrating, you can't exp your hero because of this stupid limit

Imagine this: You're the only gunner. The rest are commandos. Now you understand why there are limits right? Even 3-4 commandos who're LOOSELY co-ordinated are a pain in the ass, IJS.

Besides, if you're the only commando and everyone else is a gunner, it should be easy pickings for you if you're a decent sniper.

(04-05-2012 09:26 PM)steviboy schrieb:  Sorry guys but i don't like the comandolimit. It's hatefull because it's hard to find a server without it, or with only 1 comando. I think that it would be better to make the limitation to 3 or 4. It's like a kind of discrimination. Being a good comando requires some skills, and with the arguement that comandos are hackers, you can't win this discussion. There are also gunners and soldiers who hacks. A few days ago i tried to join a random game, and i needed to retry it 9 times, just because of the limitation. I know it's hard to beat a few comandos who are aiming at 1 target,... but every class has his advantages and disadvantages...

Hard to beat a few commandos aiming at one target? Its impossible. It only takes two headshots ( PS 5 + Slow Sniper ) to kill a commando and soldier, and +1 body shot to put down a gunner. Thats the damage from ONE sniper with decent accuracy. Take 3 and you're team can barely advance from their spawn.

(04-05-2012 10:52 PM)s0zage schrieb:  

(29-04-2012 10:04 AM)2DayULive schrieb:  

(29-04-2012 09:50 AM)jackiesparrow schrieb:  Hello Heroes.

I have got very many complains about commando limit, I agree it is not fair.
Firstible of all, Commando's are not overpowerd. Because EA should never make a game with big difference in prestige of the class.
Second is that some people find the gunner overpowerd, But they almost never get kicked out of server's.
Many people can't or barely train their Commando this way.
So my point is that server with Commando (Class) limit are unranked server's so they game would be more fun to play.

Samarias-Corbon

It is fair. The class is OP, mainly snipers(especially with aimbot). Your first reason does not state how cheap the class can kill. Although gunners might be OP, they do not ruin the game in the same way mandos do. In fact, despite gunners being OP, they actually contribute to the team. Unlike mandos, hiding 24/7, killing way 2 fast, etc. I also do not agree with your point, they should add flaws to the class. Especially to stealth and PS, playing with mando is like playing pregames.

OP chart
1)commando
2)gunners
3)soldier(I think)

AHAHAHAHAHAHA AHAHAHAHAHA.
k lets get serious yes snipers can be OP but dual pistol and knife commandos are UP as hell and what the hell do you mean, no flaws?
Knifing gets instandly countered.
Sniping [if you get the chance to] isn't even that hard to counter to be honest, just shoot them with your LRP.
And the only class that has no flaws is gunner cause it's flaws are meant to be low movement speed and bad accuracy/bad at long range but leg - it and frenzy fire fix that so it seriously has no flaws.

Sniping has no flaws. In other shooters, snipers are still strong but have other factors that prevent them from going insane with their kills.

In BF3, theres bullet drop so you can't do cross map sniping from an insane perch.

In CoD, if you miss you're dead.

In BFH, you've got stealth, which increases your survivability to near godmode, unless you're marked. You've got elixir for when you've been uncovered or have blown off that head you've been stalking for about two seconds. You've got MT, which is self explanatory. You've got TTs, which when placed properly can INSTA-KILL. To even think about comparing a person with decent aim using the LRP to a person with decent aim using the sniper is ridiculous.

[jepu2K]

when i go to play with gunner(which is not op -.-) i always get to like salty pretzels and like half team is mandos in both sides... bit frustrated feeling .____.

[HeroGxs]

Too many commandos can make a game slow, but that is the point of the class.If you don't like it leave, Really can't stand whiner t00ls saying "oh whine whine whine about the limited servers" when they are the one's whining in the first place.Nothing is going to happen, but if it votes to remove limits, I support that.

[Lightingbird]

(29-04-2012 10:04 AM)2DayULive schrieb:  

(29-04-2012 09:50 AM)jackiesparrow schrieb:  Hello Heroes.

I have got very many complains about commando limit, I agree it is not fair.
Firstible of all, Commando's are not overpowerd. Because EA should never make a game with big difference in prestige of the class.
Second is that some people find the gunner overpowerd, But they almost never get kicked out of server's.
Many people can't or barely train their Commando this way.
So my point is that server with Commando (Class) limit are unranked server's so they game would be more fun to play.

Samarias-Corbon

It is fair. The class is OP, mainly snipers(especially with aimbot). Your first reason does not state how cheap the class can kill. Although gunners might be OP, they do not ruin the game in the same way mandos do. In fact, despite gunners being OP, they actually contribute to the team. Unlike mandos, hiding 24/7, killing way 2 fast, etc. I also do not agree with your point, they should add flaws to the class. Especially to stealth and PS, playing with mando is like playing pregames.

OP chart
1)commando
2)gunners
3)soldier(I think)

Shocked to see you say this man. You can't base a class on ease of play regarding cheats. Thats just dumb.

The gunner class is the easiest to play by design. You realize that right? I'm not saying the mando class is the hardest but its clearly not the easiest.

Either way, I think mando limits should stay. Why? Mark target spamming idiots. You have to remember a lot of kids and teens play this game. That will bring a huge amount of immaturity to the game. So you will literally have them hiding, barely playing with MT5 just spamming it nonstop. Its annoying and tough on the mandos that are actually trying to play. So the mando limit needs to stay but with that said, more gunner limits should be put in place. Its clear that its the easiest class in the game to play and any team with a huge amount of them will destroy the other. I'm playing on renting a server tomorrow and I intend on having a mando and gunner limit.

[HeroGxs]

Gunners are not an easy class to play.^

[Karaschk]

(29-04-2012 10:04 AM)2DayULive schrieb:  

(29-04-2012 09:50 AM)jackiesparrow schrieb:  Hello Heroes.

I have got very many complains about commando limit, I agree it is not fair.
Firstible of all, Commando's are not overpowerd. Because EA should never make a game with big difference in prestige of the class.
Second is that some people find the gunner overpowerd, But they almost never get kicked out of server's.
Many people can't or barely train their Commando this way.
So my point is that server with Commando (Class) limit are unranked server's so they game would be more fun to play.

Samarias-Corbon

It is fair. The class is OP, mainly snipers(especially with aimbot). Your first reason does not state how cheap the class can kill. Although gunners might be OP, they do not ruin the game in the same way mandos do. In fact, despite gunners being OP, they actually contribute to the team. Unlike mandos, hiding 24/7, killing way 2 fast, etc. I also do not agree with your point, they should add flaws to the class. Especially to stealth and PS, playing with mando is like playing pregames.

OP chart
1)commando
2)gunners
3)soldier(I think)

Aimbot?
Every class has hackes and if you don't like them(almost everyone including me hates hacks), just play in punkbuster servers.
Mando's still OP???

[zZage]

(22-05-2012 01:37 AM)WorldBosh schrieb:  

(03-05-2012 04:33 PM)s0zage schrieb:  I don't believe that it is cause people believe that commando is OP but because commandos are the only class that is not good for teamplay.
every commando build except for 2x LRP is a lone wolf build and that usually does not help out your team.
also lots of people cry and think that the commando is OP when they get nearly instand killed by one since they do not know that it is hard to set up such kills (atleast for a knifer) so they scream ''NOOO COMMANDOS ARE OP*commando limit activate*''.

(22-05-2012 01:37 AM)WorldBosh schrieb:  Hard to set up sniper kills xD? HARD? If EA removed stealth and nerfed PS then yea, it'd be hard. As things are at the moment, its insanely easy.
[/qoute]
My god why does everybody think that all commandos are snipers?I meant that it's hard to set up such kills for knifers/pistoleros I agree that sniping isn't balanced etc but come on....COME ON not ALL mandos are OP'd up snipers.

(04-05-2012 10:52 PM)s0zage schrieb:  

(29-04-2012 10:04 AM)2DayULive schrieb:  [quote='jackiesparrow' pid='4683729' dateline='1335689445']
Hello Heroes.

I have got very many complains about commando limit, I agree it is not fair.
Firstible of all, Commando's are not overpowerd. Because EA should never make a game with big difference in prestige of the class.
Second is that some people find the gunner overpowerd, But they almost never get kicked out of server's.
Many people can't or barely train their Commando this way.
So my point is that server with Commando (Class) limit are unranked server's so they game would be more fun to play.

Samarias-Corbon

It is fair. The class is OP, mainly snipers(especially with aimbot). Your first reason does not state how cheap the class can kill. Although gunners might be OP, they do not ruin the game in the same way mandos do. In fact, despite gunners being OP, they actually contribute to the team. Unlike mandos, hiding 24/7, killing way 2 fast, etc. I also do not agree with your point, they should add flaws to the class. Especially to stealth and PS, playing with mando is like playing pregames.

OP chart
1)commando
2)gunners
3)soldier(I think)

AHAHAHAHAHAHA AHAHAHAHAHA.
k lets get serious yes snipers can be OP but dual pistol and knife commandos are UP as hell and what the hell do you mean, no flaws?
Knifing gets instandly countered.
Sniping [if you get the chance to] isn't even that hard to counter to be honest, just shoot them with your LRP.
And the only class that has no flaws is gunner cause it's flaws are meant to be low movement speed and bad accuracy/bad at long range but leg - it and frenzy fire fix that so it seriously has no flaws.

Sniping has no flaws. In other shooters, snipers are still strong but have other factors that prevent them from going insane with their kills.

In BF3, theres bullet drop so you can't do cross map sniping from an insane perch.

In CoD, if you miss you're dead.

In BFH, you've got stealth, which increases your survivability to near godmode, unless you're marked. You've got elixir for when you've been uncovered or have blown off that head you've been stalking for about two seconds. You've got MT, which is self explanatory. You've got TTs, which when placed properly can INSTA-KILL. To even think about comparing a person with decent aim using the LRP to a person with decent aim using the sniper is ridiculous.

Again the commando class is more than snipers and I said that you can counter them with your LRP cause you will have more mobility than a scoped in sniper
and let's just not talk about CoD 'sniping' okay?

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Commando limits shouldn't be removed because it's just redicilous to fight a team of 6 commandos but they should be increased to 3 4 or maybe even 5.
My biggest problem with this limit is that it doesn't only affect snipers but all commandos...even those who don't kill you across the map in 2 shots.

BTW I'm Sozage this is my account that I use when I play gunner [max freeloading ftw?]